I officially declare my Business a MUSLIM FREE Zone

Feuer Frei! · 10-01-14, 09:04 AM

So says Jan Morgan of the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas.

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Just ignore the dumb picture at the top of the article and read the words instead, you are in for a roller-coaster ride of controversy and everything in-between.

I agree with the first line though.

"The western world is at war with radical Islam".

Her paint brush is a very very broad brush indeed.

ikalugin · 10-01-14, 09:17 AM

I don't think that it is justified, and it appears to me that it goes against US ideology.

I also wonder where did the 270 million figure come from.

Feuer Frei! · 10-01-14, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

I don't think that it is justified, and it appears to me that it goes against US ideology

I think you might be onto something here

She's a nut job. No diplomacy needed.

Dread Knot · 10-01-14, 09:30 AM

The question I always have to ask myself when I see outrageous internet statements like this are; is this a legitimate raving loon, or just a calculated, cynical ploy to gin up business / publicity or drive an agenda?

ikalugin · 10-01-14, 09:31 AM

Both probably.

Dread Knot · 10-01-14, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Both probably.

Possibly. Just looking at her little manifesto and all the red button-pushing looks really blatant.

Skybird · 10-01-14, 10:49 AM

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5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?

Indeed.

People who insist on following the Koran, are taboo for me. No. Matter. What.

The ideological fundament of Islam is what it is, and it is non-negotiable, since the Koran is understood to be the word of God. As such, it is a racist, totalitarian and intolerant claim for superiority that demands the subjugation and discrimination of Jews and Christians, and the killing of anyone else who is not 'Muslim" or is Muslim but not in the right way (regulated by Shariah), and the killing of all Jews and Christians that revolt against getting discriminated and refusing to pay protection money. That is the Koran, and so that is Islam. To ignore that, means to talk about anything - just not about Islam.

From a libertarian POV I am totally for owners of shops and places being free to deny people a deal with whom they do not want to make deals, no matter what their reasons and motives are. But lets face it, the servile mind of Zeitgeist claims that to be racist, and so laws have been put into place that forbid shop owners to "discriminate" between different customers (that is the original meaning of the word discrimination: to make/to see the differences between two or more different things). What these laws really mean is that those holding private property in form of such a shop, get partially expropriated.

That is a prime argument why I would be extremely hesitant to open a business in Germany. If I am not allowed to be the master in my house, I have no real interest to build it. If I am not free in refusing customers I do not want to make deals with, then I am out.

Interesting that the ten point list of that shop in the US has been taken off the web meanwhile.

ikalugin · 10-01-14, 10:53 AM

What would you use to judge that the customer in front of you is a Muslim though? I mean most male customers would be unlikely to advertise their religious views in any definitive fashion.

Betonov · 10-01-14, 11:07 AM

I once made my business a muslim free zone.

my kebab stand went bust after 2 days

ikalugin · 10-01-14, 11:09 AM

Was the kebab (shop) removed then?

Betonov · 10-01-14, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Was the kebab (shop) removed then?

had to close, no customers

Buddahaid · 10-01-14, 12:33 PM

You bring out your big golden book of stereotypes and check them out. Failing that you hold up a cross and see if they shy away from it. Oh wait that's for something else.....

Skybird · 10-01-14, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You bring out your big golden book of stereotypes and check them out.

That is a way to describe the Koran in a way that I never heard before, but in a way you could be right with your description.

Just that it is not my book, but Islam's.

Armistead · 10-01-14, 03:31 PM

I wouldn't sell either, but I wouldn't promote it. My only question, if one opens to the public to sell their goods, can they discriminate on religious grounds only?

MH · 10-01-14, 03:42 PM

Another... some not Muslims are evil , some not Muslims are not evil thread....
Big mess are making...those ...not believers.
In reality it is easer to get hit by a car than by not Muslim therefore all is good.

Don't loose your heads over it...it is cultural issue..

Meanwhile in the not Muslim ME....

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Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	I officially declare my Business a MUSLIM FREE Zone So says Jan Morgan of the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas. CLICK ME FOR ARTICLE Just ignore the dumb picture at the top of the article and read the words instead, you are in for a roller-coaster ride of controversy and everything in-between. I agree with the first line though. "The western world is at war with radical Islam". Her paint brush is a very very broad brush indeed. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	You bring out your big golden book of stereotypes and check them out. Failing that you hold up a cross and see if they shy away from it. Oh wait that's for something else..... __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't sell either, but I wouldn't promote it. My only question, if one opens to the public to sell their goods, can they discriminate on religious grounds only? __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I don't think that it is justified, and it appears to me that it goes against US ideology. I also wonder where did the 270 million figure come from.

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Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The question I always have to ask myself when I see outrageous internet statements like this are; is this a legitimate raving loon, or just a calculated, cynical ploy to gin up business / publicity or drive an agenda?

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Both probably.

10-01-14, 10:53 AM	#8
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	What would you use to judge that the customer in front of you is a Muslim though? I mean most male customers would be unlikely to advertise their religious views in any definitive fashion.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I once made my business a muslim free zone. my kebab stand went bust after 2 days

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Was the kebab (shop) removed then?

10-01-14, 03:42 PM	#15
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	Another... some not Muslims are evil , some not Muslims are not evil thread.... Big mess are making...those ...not believers. In reality it is easer to get hit by a car than by not Muslim therefore all is good. Don't loose your heads over it...it is cultural issue.. Meanwhile in the not Muslim ME....