Do mods cause instability?

l.husler · 02-06-12, 05:41 PM

hey, I've recently started fiddling mod wise with SHIV and have noticed that an alarming percentage of these mods cause CTD's

I've only fiddled with a few mods, yamato, Titan and the montana, thus the yamato and titan cause CTD's at certain points like clock work. please does anyone know why this happens? any fixes.

I'm not use JSGME to install the mods, i wonder if this is the issue?

peabody · 02-06-12, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by l.husler

hey, I've recently started fiddling mod wise with SHIV and have noticed that an alarming percentage of these mods cause CTD's

I've only fiddled with a few mods, yamato, Titan and the montana, thus the yamato and titan cause CTD's at certain points like clock work. please does anyone know why this happens? any fixes.

I'm not use JSGME to install the mods, i wonder if this is the issue?

All those mods overwrite game files, that is why you need to use JSGME to install them and uninstall them. You install one and it changes game files then when you install a different MOD the necessary game files are changed and the game crashes. Some mods just will not work with each other.
With JSGME you can uninstall the mods and the game goes back to normal.

Sailor Steve · 02-06-12, 10:03 PM

WELCOME ABOARD!

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Originally Posted by l.husler

I'm not use JSGME to install the mods, i wonder if this is the issue?

As Peabody said, JSGME will not save you from CTDs, but it doesn't cause them either. What it does is let you add mods and then remove them if there is a problem.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-06-12, 10:32 PM

Another issue with mods is that some mods are not compatible with others as well as certain mods requiring a specific activation order to ensure maximum stability.

I have observed that most CTD issues have been from mod conflicts, too many mods or corrupted core files from over-modding.

l.husler · 02-07-12, 04:36 AM

ok, thanks very much.

TBear · 02-07-12, 07:39 AM

problem 1. Not using mod enabler and copy/paste(delete) files in game folder.

Problem 2. Mod soup. To many mods that overwrites one another. (some times this happens when mods are createt on copy paste skills)

Hope that someone will create a MYMEGAMOD as one have createt for SH5 for SH4

But in general mods are like..

Toward allied gameplay

Toward Axis gameplay

GFX

Sounds

Improvements

Right there you have 5 resons why it can go wrong lol...

l.husler · 02-07-12, 07:50 AM

well, i reinstalled SHIV a fresh and then installed JSGME into the correct place, reinserted mods into mod folder and still i get CTD's with the cleveland mod (one that changes the american campaign into a surface campaign) thus far i'm still of the mind that SHIV has a weak stomache for mods....

i only enabled the cleveland, although the others ARE in the mod folder, but by them being in the mod folder and disabled, they don't do anything... so this can't be mod soup.

and also as a side note, disabling the cleveland and trying to enable any other of the mods in the folder results in the cleveland being removed from any playable campaigns, but it also stops any of the other mods being playable. it just sits there, you can play the cleveland in a quick mission but thats it

02-06-12, 05:41 PM	#1
l.husler Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Do mods cause instability? hey, I've recently started fiddling mod wise with SHIV and have noticed that an alarming percentage of these mods cause CTD's I've only fiddled with a few mods, yamato, Titan and the montana, thus the yamato and titan cause CTD's at certain points like clock work. please does anyone know why this happens? any fixes. I'm not use JSGME to install the mods, i wonder if this is the issue?

02-07-12, 07:39 AM	#6
TBear Medic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 160 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	problem 1. Not using mod enabler and copy/paste(delete) files in game folder. Problem 2. Mod soup. To many mods that overwrites one another. (some times this happens when mods are createt on copy paste skills) Hope that someone will create a MYMEGAMOD as one have createt for SH5 for SH4 But in general mods are like.. Toward allied gameplay Toward Axis gameplay GFX Sounds Improvements Right there you have 5 resons why it can go wrong lol... __________________ *IJN rules, but peabody makes it float!* *"TAKAO" Status: work in progress*

02-07-12, 07:50 AM	#7
l.husler Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	well, i reinstalled SHIV a fresh and then installed JSGME into the correct place, reinserted mods into mod folder and still i get CTD's with the cleveland mod (one that changes the american campaign into a surface campaign) thus far i'm still of the mind that SHIV has a weak stomache for mods.... i only enabled the cleveland, although the others ARE in the mod folder, but by them being in the mod folder and disabled, they don't do anything... so this can't be mod soup. and also as a side note, disabling the cleveland and trying to enable any other of the mods in the folder results in the cleveland being removed from any playable campaigns, but it also stops any of the other mods being playable. it just sits there, you can play the cleveland in a quick mission but thats it Last edited by l.husler; 02-07-12 at 08:04 AM. Reason: addition to post

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02-06-12, 10:32 PM	#4
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Another issue with mods is that some mods are not compatible with others as well as certain mods requiring a specific activation order to ensure maximum stability. I have observed that most CTD issues have been from mod conflicts, too many mods or corrupted core files from over-modding.

02-07-12, 04:36 AM	#5
l.husler Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	ok, thanks very much.