[REQ] Need help from Camera Gurus

[panthercules]

Just trying to do something that seems like it should be simple, but I haven't played around much with cameras before and I haven't been able to figure it out yet.

I just want the "Interior Aft Camera" to open up looking toward the end of the sub, rather than the side. In other words, it now opens up looking this way:



and I want it to open up rotated about 90 degrees or so to the right, so it would open up looking this way:



Is there some easy tweak way to make this happen?

[l3th4l]

haven't really gotten my head around how the math of it works but did you try opening up the camera file in s3d and adjusting the offset and rotation values inside "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft"?

I'm also unsure how the subnodes "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft1" and "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft2" which also have offset and rotation values inside interact with the ones in the base node...

if you happen to get some insight please let me know

[panthercules]

Originally Posted by l3th4l

haven't really gotten my head around how the math of it works but did you try opening up the camera file in s3d and adjusting the offset and rotation values inside "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft"?

I'm also unsure how the subnodes "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft1" and "Node - _Dummy_Cam_InteriorAft2" which also have offset and rotation values inside interact with the ones in the base node...

if you happen to get some insight please let me know

Well, I haven't really graduated from minitweaker to s3d, so I haven't tried that yet - I guess maybe this might be my chance to learn about s3d, but I was hoping to hold off on that a little bit and just finish up this one other thing I'm working on that needs this camera rotated first, so if anybody knows offhand how to do this I'd appreciate somehelp and guidance here.

[leovampire]

if your not comfortable with the S3D yet talk to JakeToox about making a new or better tweek file for the mini tweeker.

But I do sugest you try and start getting use to the S3D editor because in the future that will be the primary tool and it changes the files in a save that will make it very hard for mini tweeker tweek files to touch.

[jaketoox]

..ok..just tried to do it... but seems that no can do it with Mtweaker..you see there are different types (single,double,long,integer,byte) of values available in Mtweaker, and value for CameraPositioner/Rotation is none of those types....

..also you cant change that value with Silent 3ditor yet...

...think we just have to wait for next version of skwasjer's Silent 3ditor, like LV said, in the future that will be the primary tool for tweaking...


jake

[l3th4l]

Originally Posted by jaketoox

..also you cant change that value with Silent 3ditor yet...

not that value, yes. but you can apply an "offset". i'm not completely sure about it, but i think each node exist in a kind of local coordinate system which can correspond with the global one or can be offset in both location and rotation. This can be done with the nodes on top of every "branch" of the node tree.



the way i see it, that offset gets applied to everything beneath that node but i haven't really managed to make use of it efficiently, mostly because i don't really know what kind of measuring unit is used for the rotation part (and because my math sucks ).

OR i am complety wrong and have just confused myself and everybody around for no good reason