Planes are starting to annoy me - Page 7

tater · 03-03-09, 08:08 PM

The game tracks contacts "in 3D" out to 20nm. Meaning you can go to freeview, and see them in a 20 mile circle around you. If they get farther away, poof, they become abstractions again. If you see the group aftewr that, it will be as if you swere never there. So you sink 2, then they go to 21nm, and you catch up... the 2 sunk ships are back.

Armistead · 03-03-09, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

The game tracks contacts "in 3D" out to 20nm. Meaning you can go to freeview, and see them in a 20 mile circle around you. If they get farther away, poof, they become abstractions again. If you see the group aftewr that, it will be as if you swere never there. So you sink 2, then they go to 21nm, and you catch up... the 2 sunk ships are back.

That's what I figured, but I swore this didn't happen in stock. I remember losing TF for hours and finding them later...same TF..so it was just happen chance and not a true end around.

I new they auto fixed which also suxs.

tater · 03-03-09, 11:37 PM

The TF is the same. It exists, and it moves on the map. The game doesn't know that individual ships have been sunk, however.

Max2147 · 03-18-09, 10:30 AM

My problem is that the aircraft are suspiciously accurate with their bombing. I dive as soon as the plane shows up on radar, change course and go at least 100 feet underwater, but I've still been sunk a couple times by a lone plane's depth charges.

Running vanilla 1.5 w/RSRDC

ancient46 · 03-18-09, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

RR, the biggest culpret here is NOT RSRDC. It's RFB. Assuming you exclusively play RSRDC (stock campaign is abysmal):

Unenable Mods.

Go into the MODS folder to the BASE RFB mod, RFB_v1.52_102408.

Go into Data/Cfg within the mod. DELETE Airstrike.cfg.

That's it.

Reenable RFB/RFB patches, then RSRDC. Enjoy planes trying to kill you sometimes.

RSRDC has planes, they just get eliminated by RFB, since RFB has an Airstrike.cfg designed to fix the superabundence of planes in STOCK.

Looking at RFB and RSRDC both have an Airstrike.cfg. With RSRDC enabled after RFB won't the RSRDC file be the one used in the game?

tater · 03-18-09, 11:49 PM

It would, but lurker only recently added one to RSRDC, after my post to counter the RFB one that reduces stock planes (since RSRDC has fewer around to begin with).

79TransAm · 06-04-09, 11:23 PM

when i open the cfg file and make changes and try to save it, it says access denied and will not save. Any ideas?

Torplexed · 06-04-09, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 79TransAm

when i open the cfg file and make changes and try to save it, it says access denied and will not save. Any ideas?

Welcome to Windows Vista. It treats even the Master of the House as an intruder.

Try these links and see if they help.

http://techpaul.wordpress.com/2007/0...ommand-prompt/

http://paulstamatiou.com/2007/02/09/...ta-permissions

79TransAm · 06-05-09, 01:49 AM

tried em both, they didnt work

PortsmouthProwler · 06-05-09, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147

My problem is that the aircraft are suspiciously accurate with their bombing. I dive as soon as the plane shows up on radar, change course and go at least 100 feet underwater, but I've still been sunk a couple times by a lone plane's depth charges.

Running vanilla 1.5 w/RSRDC

Diving in general when avoiding planes:

1) CRASH IMMEDIATELY - don't even think about, just do it.

2) Post the AA on At Will, just in case.

3) Set depth to 162, 163 feet.

4) Don't manever until you're 140 feet or so - turning cramps your forward speed and rate of descent.

5) Throttle back when you bottom out.

Akula4745 · 06-05-09, 01:12 PM

Seriously... diving is good advice.

Rockin Robbins · 06-05-09, 02:24 PM

Heck, I haven't seen a plane in months. They used to be dangerous, now they don't exist. I really miss Ducimus' evil airplanes.

PortsmouthProwler · 06-05-09, 04:02 PM

Hey, I like to take a few shots myself, and have. But the chance of getting nicked up, even if you prevail, is more than even.

So it comes down to priorities - do you want to get your boat damaged and deal with that the rest of the patrol, or just yield to the better part of valor and attack that convoy at 100%?

I am a little reckless - I don't dive until I get a lookout's report. Then I scramble.

Stealhead · 06-05-09, 06:06 PM

It is the job of the aircraft to spot and attempt to destroy you. If they spot you are no longer a suprise as they will all know for sure that a sub was sighted in the area thus making your job all the more "easy". Do like they really did if you get a report of an ac on radar or whatever be gone if the belived path is going to take the plane within 5 miles of you the 40mm and the 20mm a so much better employed aginst small boats. In TMO they have a chance of seeing you as far down as 150ft at times so best to crash dive ASAP works for me I have never been hit by ac bombs or DCs to be honest they have been a few hundred yards off before though.In a Balao class it takes about 40-45 seconds just for the sub to completly submerge and about 1 minutes 25 seconds to be below 100ft 60ft is not safe in TMO you will die at this deapth if an ac is over head. I leave the planes to the USAAF,Navy,and Marine fighters they can shot them down I like the idea of boring them to death.

Armistead · 06-05-09, 09:02 PM

Towards the end of the war, planes in TMO are mean. If you go into the Formosa Straits in 45, expect many planes with surface radar, MAD, and elite pilots. Don't be caught in shallow water. I have taken damage from TMO planes at 200 ft from planes with MAD. Mostly they won't drop their bombs if you stay below 180 ft, anything 165ft and up, they will drop.

I had over 12 planes with surface radar on me at one time. I couldn't even come up to periscope depth to attack a convoy.

I got stuck in 200ft of water to get to my patrol zone and stayed on the surface to fight it out...got lucky, as you can see one got close. Formosa is dangerous in 45 with TMORDRD. Also lot's of Coastal Vessels there and those bad boys carry 6 Y guns, talk about dropping cans.

And planes attack in storms....this hit almost did me in...had to go back to port with 80% damage.

Was at 200 ft...got real close.

06-04-09, 11:23 PM	#97
79TransAm Bosun Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 68 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	when i open the cfg file and make changes and try to save it, it says access denied and will not save. Any ideas? __________________ Jones

06-05-09, 01:49 AM	#99
79TransAm Bosun Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 68 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	tried em both, they didnt work __________________ Jones

06-05-09, 01:12 PM	#101
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	Seriously... diving is good advice. __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

06-05-09, 02:24 PM	#102
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Heck, I haven't seen a plane in months. They used to be dangerous, now they don't exist. I really miss Ducimus' evil airplanes. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

06-05-09, 04:02 PM	#103
PortsmouthProwler Bosun Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 65 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Hey, I like to take a few shots myself, and have. But the chance of getting nicked up, even if you prevail, is more than even. So it comes down to priorities - do you want to get your boat damaged and deal with that the rest of the patrol, or just yield to the better part of valor and attack that convoy at 100%? I am a little reckless - I don't dive until I get a lookout's report. Then I scramble. Last edited by PortsmouthProwler; 06-05-09 at 09:16 PM.

03-03-09, 08:08 PM	#91
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The game tracks contacts "in 3D" out to 20nm. Meaning you can go to freeview, and see them in a 20 mile circle around you. If they get farther away, poof, they become abstractions again. If you see the group aftewr that, it will be as if you swere never there. So you sink 2, then they go to 21nm, and you catch up... the 2 sunk ships are back.

03-03-09, 11:37 PM	#93
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The TF is the same. It exists, and it moves on the map. The game doesn't know that individual ships have been sunk, however.

03-18-09, 10:30 AM	#94
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My problem is that the aircraft are suspiciously accurate with their bombing. I dive as soon as the plane shows up on radar, change course and go at least 100 feet underwater, but I've still been sunk a couple times by a lone plane's depth charges. Running vanilla 1.5 w/RSRDC

03-18-09, 11:49 PM	#96
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It would, but lurker only recently added one to RSRDC, after my post to counter the RFB one that reduces stock planes (since RSRDC has fewer around to begin with).

06-05-09, 06:06 PM	#104
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It is the job of the aircraft to spot and attempt to destroy you. If they spot you are no longer a suprise as they will all know for sure that a sub was sighted in the area thus making your job all the more "easy". Do like they really did if you get a report of an ac on radar or whatever be gone if the belived path is going to take the plane within 5 miles of you the 40mm and the 20mm a so much better employed aginst small boats. In TMO they have a chance of seeing you as far down as 150ft at times so best to crash dive ASAP works for me I have never been hit by ac bombs or DCs to be honest they have been a few hundred yards off before though.In a Balao class it takes about 40-45 seconds just for the sub to completly submerge and about 1 minutes 25 seconds to be below 100ft 60ft is not safe in TMO you will die at this deapth if an ac is over head. I leave the planes to the USAAF,Navy,and Marine fighters they can shot them down I like the idea of boring them to death.

06-05-09, 09:02 PM	#105
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Towards the end of the war, planes in TMO are mean. If you go into the Formosa Straits in 45, expect many planes with surface radar, MAD, and elite pilots. Don't be caught in shallow water. I have taken damage from TMO planes at 200 ft from planes with MAD. Mostly they won't drop their bombs if you stay below 180 ft, anything 165ft and up, they will drop. I had over 12 planes with surface radar on me at one time. I couldn't even come up to periscope depth to attack a convoy. I got stuck in 200ft of water to get to my patrol zone and stayed on the surface to fight it out...got lucky, as you can see one got close. Formosa is dangerous in 45 with TMORDRD. Also lot's of Coastal Vessels there and those bad boys carry 6 Y guns, talk about dropping cans. And planes attack in storms....this hit almost did me in...had to go back to port with 80% damage. Was at 200 ft...got real close.

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