Three Israelis killed by Gaza rocket as violence escalates

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red Brow

who cares about little rockets. Here in the USA we are pounded by tornadoes on a large scale. I have yet to see damage in Israel anywhere near the USA damage by hurricanes and tornadoes. What Israel needs to be doing is getting the Iranian nuclear development FLATTENED. When I say I am pro-Israel I mean I don't care about Palestinian collaterals. I care about Israel's biggest trouble - not the side shows. I am a Zionist and an avowed Globalist. If Israelis thinks that the little rocket-warheads are a trouble they need to pay more attention to Iran.

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By what you said in bold you support the idea of an Israeli state.Within reason I have no problem with this.Now you also claim to be an avowed globalist which means all peoples of the world under one state more or less.
Now if you claim to be both pro Zionist and pro globalist then that world state by default would one that favors Jews over all others.I do have a problem with that no matter who is the favored group.

Zionism: A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.
(Zionist)

globalism :A national geopolitical policy in which the entire world is regarded as the appropriate sphere for a state's influence
(globalist)

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Armistead

This is escalating that was expected. Israel will attack Iran, so they need to go ahead and secure Gaza so that will be dealt with beforehand.

Good point, didn't think of it that way around.

[Red Brow]

As for Germany??????? Who cares? I mean Israel uses guilt trips to get little goodies out of Germany - such as little rocket-shootin' U-boats. But Iran has more call to claim German support historically. I know European powers like to pretend they don't care about Israel's destiny. And the European denizens actually seem to believe those official lines. But is Europe relevant in World Politics other than its markets and banking? In Afghanistan I had really hoped the USA would have told NATO (except for the Brits and Canadians) to just go home.

I think that was a symptom of Israel's demise - its desire for little rocket-shootin' U-boats. Like those boats would ever really do squat to Iran. Israel's real power was always two fold tanks and jets. But really since the 60s it was historically air power. Where are the Israeli long range heavy missiles? Obviously the big wooden horse called America has done its thing but appears to be running out of steam.

[geetrue]

Facts:

It is not clear if the rocket targeting Jerusalem was the same Iranian-built Fajr-5 launched towards
Tel Aviv for the second day on Friday.

The rockets have an estimated range of 75km (45 miles).
Israel's Haaretz newspaper said the rocket landed in Gush Etzion,
south of Jerusalem.

It said it was the first time since 1970 that a rocket had been fired there.

It is the first time Tel Aviv has come under attack since the 1991 Gulf War.

Analysts say it is the first time Gaza militants have deployed such powerful missiles.

I think Israel has to worry about the new Egypt protecting Gaza if they should chose to move the military into the Gaza strip

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Red Brow

Where are the Israeli long range heavy missiles?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_%28missile%29

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

@Red Brow are you seriously saying that Israeli government should dismiss those "little rockets" and worry about Iran? Sorry but I'm afraid that from Israeli people's point of view those "little rockets" are much more relevant problem at the moment. Thus as Israel - unlike many of its neighbours - is democracy I don't see how goverment could just dismiss this minor problem of "little rockets".

[geetrue]

That's a very interesting link Tchocky

I would think if Israel did attack Iran's nuclear plants suspected of producing nuclear fuel to build a bomb with (still months away) that they would use submarine launched cruise rockets.

My question is simply this, "How can you tell if the missile carried a nuclear warhead if it is a direct hit on a nuclear facility"?

In other words would say a non nuclear bomb from a warplane cause the same fall out problems as a small nuclear device?

Who could tell and how long would it take for say a dirty bomb to be delievered via a suicide bomber from Iran.

Israel has more problems than they can handle with any attack on Iran.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Red Brow

I think that was a symptom of Israel's demise - its desire for little rocket-shootin' U-boats. Like those boats would ever really do squat to Iran.

You do know those SLCMs could be used to deliver nuclear ordnance in the 2-300 kT range, right? A warhead like that is sufficient to wipe out most of Tehran.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by geetrue

My question is simply this, "How can you tell if the missile carried a nuclear warhead if it is a direct hit on a nuclear facility"

A nuclear reactor, etc does not explode in a nuclear blast when bombed, even a nuclear warhead would not explode if for example its armory was bombed. Not to mention the signature of the radiation in the blast can be identified as to the source of the nuclear material.

[Gerald]

(Reuters) - Israeli ministers were on Friday asked to endorse the call-up of up to 75,000 reservists after Palestinian militants nearly hit Jerusalem with a rocket for the first time in decades and fired at Tel Aviv for a second day.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8AD0WP20121116

Note: Update record Fri Nov 16, 2012

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

A nuclear reactor, etc does not explode in a nuclear blast when bombed, even a nuclear warhead would not explode if for example its armory was bombed. Not to mention the signature of the radiation in the blast can be identified as to the source of the nuclear material.

Thank you ... I was worried that a bunker busting bomb could be mistaken for a nuclear weapon instead, but if and when they do anything it will be an act of war and the outcome won't be pretty.

unless of course they wait and wait and wait for Iran to fire first after years and years of promising to wipe them out.

Then the world wouldn't be against them ... I think

[HunterICX]

I think I'll leave this one here...

This land is mine:
http://vimeo.com/50531435

HunterICX

[eddie]

I think the dumbest thing I've heard recently about these events over there, is from Assad. He said the world should condemn Israel for a terrorist attack against the civilians in Gaza!!!

Hey Assad, how's the killing of Syrian civilians going!?!

[u crank]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

I think I'll leave this one here...

This land is mine:
http://vimeo.com/50531435

HunterICX

That about sums it up. Good one.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by eddie

I think the dumbest thing I've heard recently about these events over there, is from Assad. He said the world should condemn Israel for a terrorist attack against the civilians in Gaza!!!

Hey Assad, how's the killing of Syrian civilians going!?!

Assad,talk about bad statement