Interesting 9/11 analysis

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by fatty

If the U.S. government was diabolical enough to carry out 9/11, I'm sure they would also be diabolical enough to plant WMDs in Iraq after the invasion.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) the United States government aint too good at planning and implementing these types of big conspiracies.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) the United States government aint too good at planning and implementing these types of big conspiracies.

Just don't tell this to JFK or his family.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Facts are always more boring than contrived theories. There seems to be a human need to construct conspiracy theories about significant events in history. It's always the boring old facts that win out though.

So very true. I once had several run-ins with a dyed-in-the-wool conspiracy buff. He was absolutely sure of all of them: JFK, the moon landings, Roswell - you name it. One day I asked him if he knew about the conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln. His eyes got big and he started breathing hard. "There was a conspiracy in the Lincoln assassination?"

I told him "Yep. Booth was to shoot the president, another guy was to kill Vice President Johnson, and a third was to kill Secretary of State Seward. The VP guy chickened out, and the State attempt was foiled by Seward's son. They hanged three people, plus Mary Surrat, the woman who owned the hotel where all the plotting was done."

When he realized the conspiracy was a real one, his eyes glazed over and he walked away. People don't want the truth; they want something exciting and different, however bizarre it may be.

Do I believe such a thing is possible? Of course - anything is possible. JFK may have been killed by the CIA, mafia, or Castro; or by secret order of Lyndon Johnson. There may be aliens stored away somewhere, and FDR may have planned the Pearl Harbor attack himself (I still point that out whenever I see the old footage of Dauntlesses in attack mode immediately followed by shots of Pearl burning). Just don't tell me I HAVE to believe it. The truth is usually much simpler, and sometimes things are exactly what they seem.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

People don't want the truth; they want something exciting and different, however bizarre it may be.

This is true. I have an idea, we should publish a magazine that tells nothing but rumors, conspiracies, half-truths and doctored photographs of celebrities and politicians. We could make millions.

Originally Posted by MothBalls

This is true. I have an idea, we should publish a magazine that tells nothing but rumors, conspiracies, half-truths and doctored photographs of celebrities and politicians. We could make millions.

Isn't that the National Enquirer ?:rotfl:

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by darius359au

Isn't that the National Enquirer ?:rotfl:

Fox News?

Haven't really gotten into this "it was a hoax" - etc. stuff, IMO the whole thing especially with the Iraq war is crooked enough from the get go that no extra conspiracies aren't even needed.

But just to chime in, that third building, or was it fourth, that did indeed take a while before it collapsed, I remember seeing some footage that was showed on television that showed that there were these loud noises coming from either that building or some other. Noises like very loud cracks or explosions if you really wanna twist it. This was after the collapse of the twin towers and the cause for the delayed collapse of that one building was that there was some tremors or something from the two towers and led to the subsequent collapse of that one building. So no bombs, just a somewhat shoddy building.

Personally I think that the fact that high rise buildings all over USA and also elsewhere in the world are just shoddily built and therefore can collapse much easier then has been previously thought is a much more terrifying thought then some measly conspiracy. Hope someone understand what I'm getting at.

But, alas, this is just My Very Own And Very Subjective And Very Humble Opinion.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by fatty

If the U.S. government was diabolical enough to carry out 9/11, I'm sure they would also be diabolical enough to plant WMDs in Iraq after the invasion.

If 9/11 was a US government conpiracy, why didn't they simply fabricate evidence of Iraqi ivolvement? Surely that would have made their future foriegn policy strategy a lot easier to pull off. :hmm:

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

If 9/11 was a US government conpiracy, why didn't they simply fabricate evidence of Iraqi ivolvement? Surely that would have made their future foriegn policy strategy a lot easier to pull off. :hmm:

Hmm. Never thought of that one. You're right - if the rest of the world thought that Iraq was behind it we would have had the entire UN supporting us.

[Enigma]

The smoking gun(s) that the government was NOT involved in 9/11 are:

A) It worked

B) In order to pull such a thing off, they would have to be competent.

Case closed.

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

But, alas, this is just My Very Own And Very Subjective And Very Humble Opinion.

Be careful!

That's enough to get you on ignore lists around here...

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Hmm. Never thought of that one. You're right - if the rest of the world thought that Iraq was behind it we would have had the entire UN supporting us.

A large proportion of Americans (~30%) believed Iraq was involved.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Fox News?

Damn those guys took our idea.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Some sources on the building stucture. Alot of stuff out there.

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html

Wolfehunter, you wanna talk 9/11?
This is the place for you!

http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64

[Dowly]

:rotfl: