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Kapitan_Phillips 06-23-08 04:35 PM

Interesting 9/11 analysis
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HQdlBAp-24g&feature=related

Whatcha think?

PeriscopeDepth 06-23-08 04:49 PM

I don't think "Crock of ****" is strong enough, personally.

PD

Kapitan_Phillips 06-23-08 04:52 PM

You dont think he makes a few good points?

PeriscopeDepth 06-23-08 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips
You dont think he makes a few good points?

Did I somehow make it sound like he did? I thought I was pretty unequivocal.

PD

AVGWarhawk 06-23-08 05:05 PM

This has been analyized to death. Jesse "the body" Ventura...I do not have time to bleed....when he comes up with a paperwork that he fully understand structrual engineering, then we can talk. The trade centers were constructed with a exoskeleton as support. The persons who took control of the planes obviously studied these buildings and it's construction thus understanding it's weak points creating a possible collapse. They studied well and found that hitting the corners of the building could create a unstable structure producing a collapse. Of course we know the results. This was well planned and well executed. The only conspiracy here are those that made some sort of profit from this act of aggression. I guess Jesse will now right a book on his theories and make his profit.

Sailor Steve 06-23-08 06:04 PM

I've watched the videos many times, and it's obvious in the case of the two main towers that the top portions collapsed onto the crash points first. The rest falls from the top down. There are puffs of smoke lower down, probably from pressure as the higher portions force the air out of the floors below. It doesn't look like there are any interior explosions to me.

I don't know much about building 7, but these guys do:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=5

Also see:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

mapuc 06-23-08 07:15 PM

I hope that one day, if not for the american, than the people of the free world, that the real truth about this will come furth.

I'm not saying that it's your government or so.

Markus

joegrundman 06-23-08 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
The trade centers were constructed with a exoskeleton as support. The persons who took control of the planes obviously studied these buildings and it's construction thus understanding it's weak points creating a possible collapse. They studied well and found that hitting the corners of the building could create a unstable structure producing a collapse. Of course we know the results. This was well planned and well executed.

while i do not disagree with your general point, i'd like to say that it is not necessarily true that the attackers fully understood the weaknesses of the structure.

Firstly, from what is known, the targets were chosen not for their vulnerability but for their symbolic value

Secondly early reports from Bin Laden's camp reported a reaction of surprise that the buildings collapsed completely

baggygreen 06-23-08 07:48 PM

Not again....

internal 'explosions' below the actual collapse is, funnily enough, like steve said - the result of high pressure you generally get from thousands of tonnes of steel crashing down into a small space... air has to go somewhere!

I'm also sure that the architects of the towers didnt really anticipate the need to make it plane-flying-into-side-of-building-proof, either! The force of the impact would already render any building potentially written-off, and thats before the heat stress brought on by the intense heat from the fuel exploding.

I would like to compare the 9/11 conspiracy theorists to those who believe in aliens and UFOs, but i cant, because theres more chance that aliens and UFOs are real!

August 06-23-08 10:28 PM

Is it me or are there a lot of people, both around the world and even here in the states who very strongly hope that 9-11 turns out a government conspiracy and bin Laden and his henchmen just innocent scapegoats?

Wolfehunter 06-23-08 10:45 PM

Good some more americans are waking up and smelling the coffee. So when are the american people going to take back they're country?:hmm:

mapuc 06-23-08 10:57 PM

Emperors new clothes

Almost no one today, dare to stand up and say what's on his or her mind about many thing, including this 9/11, because we are all more or less very afraid to be pointed at and called

Stupid, jerk, you name it.

So indeed we are looking at emperors new clothes

And what I can see from my point of view
HE'S NAKED

Markus

PeriscopeDepth 06-23-08 11:11 PM

Does anyone really believe the Bush admin could get away with murdering nearly 3,000 American civillians with nobody talking? They couldn't get away with outing a CIA agent FFS. How is it so hard to believe a bunch of crazies put airplanes into buildings? I don't get it, and am certainly one to question my government. But it just has to make a wee bit of sense.

PD

PeriscopeDepth 06-23-08 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August
Is it me or are there a lot of people, both around the world and even here in the states who very strongly hope that 9-11 turns out a government conspiracy and bin Laden and his henchmen just innocent scapegoats?

Or Israeli conspiracy.

PD

Stealth Hunter 06-23-08 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
Does anyone really believe the Bush admin could get away with murdering nearly 3,000 American civillians with nobody talking? They couldn't get away with outing a CIA agent FFS. How is it so hard to believe a bunch of crazies put airplanes into buildings? I don't get it, and am certainly one to question my government. But it just has to make a wee bit of sense.

PD

Hey, these same people typically believe that JFK was killed by the CIA and we never landed on the moon. You can give them all the evidence, but they'll deny it to the end and make up crazy stories to meet their argument.:roll:

I like his part about how could they fall at the speed of gravity... he is obviously just a dumbass with no knowledge in science...


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