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Old 02-16-08, 12:23 AM   #61
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Here is my thought to put this issue to rest. Whether we are divinely inspired creatures made in god's own image and animals were put on the planet for us or that we evolved from a puddle of goo into the most intelligent primate/animal on the planet one thing is certain: OUR BRAINS PUT US AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN. Now for the love of god man pass me the barbeque, pork, lamb, beef, chicken, fish, veal, turkey, pheasant, duck, lobster because I am hungry!


Yum yum, get me some horseradish and au jus and a glass of merlot.
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Old 02-16-08, 12:38 AM   #62
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Great. Now I've got to go make a sandwich.
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Old 02-16-08, 12:43 AM   #63
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Yeah me too. In my opinion, a medium rare prime rib or rib roast is right up there with the greatest of pleasures in life. This would include the obvious; women, good alcohol, a fine cigar, etc.
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Old 02-16-08, 12:46 AM   #64
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Well--for me (tonight anyway)--a tuna fish on rye, a cigarette and an Old Milwaukee will have to suffice .
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Old 02-16-08, 12:59 AM   #65
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HHAHA, we used to call that Ol' Milyuckie in college. Then there was Milwaukee's Beast or "the beast". Good times.
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Old 02-16-08, 10:01 AM   #66
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That is certainly not wrong, but stating that Darwinism puts everything on the same level is. ( at least in my opinion. ) I am a Darvinist by heart and my belief about this matter is:

I think that animals are simply that, Animals. They are living and feeling beeings and deserve the respect that every living beeing deserves, but nothing more than that as we still need them to feed ourselves, and I happen to like BBQs. Humanity is not divine, but it is seperated from the animals by the simple thing called self-consience (sp?) that Animals do not have. When and how we got this is a question that cannot be answered, but it separates us from our closest relatives in the Animal Kingdom. The fact that we can use tools is just a neat side-effect that allowed us to develop a technical civilization.
You are like me - you are not a purest. You accept that it is a theory with flaws. Our differences however divide when you start to talk about the man upstairs.


We live in a world of grey no matter how people want it to be black and white.

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I am not talking about the man upstairs, I am simply stating that Humanity isn't partcularly special aside from the factors I mentoined. The man upstairs ( if is there at all ) has nothing to do with it. I agree that the world isn't black and white, though I like to believe that it is of a lighert shade of grey.

PS- Self Conciense (sp?) might have been a bad choice of words. I was trying to say that the human 'soul' for lack of a better world allows us to go beyond the immediate horizon of what is around us at a given moment.
trekchu, out of others an elefant has self-conciense.
http://www.sanparks.org/events/eleph...T%20INDABA.pdf
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