The enemy within: evangelical fundamentalism in US armed forces

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Skybird me and you are like two men standing across a river trying to have a conversation...you want me on your side and I want you to cross to mine. I have been on yours already and there is no life or hope there. All I can do is try to show the way I got across. If you fall in or jump in for that matter there is nothing I can do about it and I accept it, yet would still try to throw you a line even if you spit in my face and swim back to your side.Many here are impressed with your claim to know something about the mind and marvel after you I am not one of them.You do not fool me Skybird...what you think is knowlodege is not and I am afraid you have a rude awaking coming.

Do you have to be quite so insulting and patronising?

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Do you have to be quite so insulting and patronising?

I didn't read that as insulting or patronizing. Well maybe a bit patronizing but certainly orders of magnitude less than Skybirds usual.

[Iceman]

The enemy within:Heathenistic,Athesitic nonsense in US armed forces...

ok now break this thread apart and see what happens.The topic title invited my responses get over it Tchocky.

Spin it however you want Skybirds God less pov is not shared by everyone.

The more I think on it the more apparent it becomes that the reason people of faith have actually volunteered and are now reaching places of rank in the all voluntary US military is a rather simple one. They believe in something outside of themselves.

Those patriots believe in God and their country. I have nothing but admiration for their courage and sacrifice. May God and their countrymen, whom they fight for, bless them.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Iceman

ok now break this thread apart and see what happens.The topic title invited my responses get over it Tchocky.

You postulated a wonderful scenario where Skybird spits in your honest face rather than accept your aid, even though there's only death and hopelessness on his side of some mystical river. Sorry if I find that a little....abstract.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Skybird me and you are like two men standing across a river trying to have a conversation...you want me on your side and I want you to cross to mine. I have been on yours already and there is no life or hope there. All I can do is try to show the way I got across. If you fall in or jump in for that matter there is nothing I can do about it and I accept it, yet would still try to throw you a line even if you spit in my face and swim back to your side.

You overestimate the importance you have in my life. And that river you talk of - I have already left behind long time ago, and moving on. Whomever you believe you see on the other side - it is not me. Maybe worth for you to find out about that figure.

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Since nobody apparently has read the study, or has anything to comment on it, I assume we can leave this thread here now.

Originally Posted by Skybird

You overestimate the importance you have in my life. And that river you talk of - I have already left behind long time ago, and moving on. Whomever you believe you see on the other side - it is not me. Maybe worth for you to find out about that figure.

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Since nobody apparently has read the study, or has anything to comment on it, I assume we can leave this thread here now.

Let it go Iceman. Long ago Skybird jumped the shark.

The term jumping the shark alludes to a scene in the TV series Happy Days when the popular character Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli, jumps over a shark while water skiing. The scene was so preposterous that many believed it to be an ill-conceived attempt at reviving the declining ratings of the flagging show.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Let it go Iceman. Long ago Skybird jumped the shark.

The term jumping the shark alludes to a scene in the TV series Happy Days when the popular character Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli, jumps over a shark while water skiing. The scene was so preposterous that many believed it to be an ill-conceived attempt at reviving the declining ratings of the flagging show.

[LtCmdrRat]

Quote from Mr. Robbins:
"What we are supposed to have in America is freedom OF religion, "Congress shall make no law infringing..." not "freedom FROM religion." That, sirs, is a socialist concept we cannot tolerate. "
So I think when I was immigrating to USA I had wrong ideas of liberties.
I hoped that America had both freedom of religion and freedom from religion
I hoped that America has tolerable culture but America doesnt tolerate socialism ideas( does rights even read Marx?)
Freedom of speech is left for your private conversations with your friends in private house.
I hoped that America has good judical system and I was right that Justice in America is the best staff that money can buy.

ps EVERYTHING ABOVE IS JUST MY SARCASM.
My neighbour is really missing America but America from yesterday not today's America. Is he right?

Originally Posted by LtCmdrRat

Quote from Mr. Robbins:
"What we are supposed to have in America is freedom OF religion, "Congress shall make no law infringing..." not "freedom FROM religion." That, sirs, is a socialist concept we cannot tolerate. "
So I think when I was immigrating to USA I had wrong ideas of liberties.
I hoped that America had both freedom of religion and freedom from religion
I hoped that America has tolerable culture but America doesnt tolerate socialism ideas( does rights even read Marx?)
Freedom of speech is left for your private conversations with your friends in private house.
I hoped that America has good judical system and I was right that Justice in America is the best staff that money can buy.

ps EVERYTHING ABOVE IS JUST MY SARCASM.
My neighbour is really missing America but America from yesterday not today's America. Is he right?

In my estimation you are in the wrong thread. If you want answers to your questions, I'd advise starting something new. That is your right here in the US.

[LtCmdrRat]

Originally Posted by waste gate

In my estimation you are in the wrong thread. If you want answers to your questions, I'd advise starting something new. That is your right here in the US.

Sir, my post above was just reaction on the mr. Robbins words published in this thread therefore I put it here.
Sometimes sarcasm is .. just a sarcasm.Guilty in grotesk but If anyone thinks that I do not love America that person is wrong, deeply wrong. To love country means to love people and I do. Not all of people but many.

Originally Posted by LtCmdrRat

Sir, my post above was just reaction on the mr. Robbins words published in this thread therefore I put it here.
Somtimes sarcasm is .. just a sarcasm

If I misinterpreted your meaning I apologize. wg

[LtCmdrRat]

Dear W -G,
Perhaps misunderstanding was provoked by me or level of my english that is far away from perfection. My present job is killing my English...

[The WosMan]

You work in the public school system?

[LtCmdrRat]

Originally Posted by The WosMan

You work in the public school system?

much easier ....but it kills English fast too .
Medical transportation, community service