[WIP] Ships database for TDW UI - SOAN - Page 4

Trevally. · 03-06-11, 05:31 PM

Good work Church

bert8for3 · 03-06-11, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Great news Bert

So far Magnum is doing the merchants and I am doing the tankers.
There is a small download on post 1 from Magnum with the data files in place.
If you need help setting up a .ait file, let me know

I'll have a look at passenger and troop transports. What's your timeline on this?

Zedi · 03-06-11, 05:51 PM

@Church
The data is pretty accurate, see the references at the bottom of each page. Just keep in mind that we need to cover only those that are in the game. Also the length, mast, speed maybe is better to be left out as that part is covered by the .cfg file and handled by the game engine and these values are not really like they were in reality. We need to cover the rest, like engines, weapons, history etc.

Also from wiki, here is the list of destroyer classes from all nations. A good place to start the data hunt.

Happy to see your interested in the project

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Originally Posted by bert8for3

I'll have a look at passenger and troop transports. What's your timeline on this?

No timeline, its a WIP.. work in progress. Its done when its done. Sooner, better.

Zedi · 03-07-11, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

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@TDW, I am getting clipped text and can't see anything that could cause it. Any suggestions

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

It still needs some work. I saw some problems with formatted text when the images were added.
I have to fly out to Denver today for a week and I'm hoping I get time to work on this while I'm out there.

I have the same problem. I finished the merchants and carriers, but the text are getting clipped. Now I Im not sure why, but is possible that the .ait format can cause this? I mean when we reach the A4 page limit, the extra content is cut off? And why we use AI template format anyway?

A solution would be to cut the content and keep only general info. Actually, I will start to get only short content as this is taking too much time anyway... For soan is enough to have only general info about the classes, we can write about the detailed ship history in the library.

Trevally. · 03-07-11, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

I have the same problem. I finished the merchants and carriers, but the text are getting clipped. Now I Im not sure why, but is possible that the .ait format can cause this? I mean when we reach the A4 page limit, the extra content is cut off? And why we use AI template format anyway?

A solution would be to cut the content and keep only general info. Actually, I will start to get only short content as this is taking too much time anyway... For soan is enough to have only general info about the classes, we can write about the detailed ship history in the library.

Im sure TDW can fix this. There was a similar issue with the tutorial.

I think that we also have to watch our text closely as there is no
end command - a return in your text can end the displayed text.

Trevally. · 03-07-11, 03:03 PM

Im really looking forward to the library feature.
Might even take my camera to the Scapa Flow war museum on the island of Hoy

Zedi · 03-07-11, 03:35 PM

When the content is inserted I always run a search for [ ; double space etc. So im pretty sure is not that the cause. My problem is that Im getting really tired and also bored, even if I just copy/paste.. this is just too much. Started the BB's, but my eyes hurts already.

I also wish the Library would work already, I need a change and do something else.. :/ Like reading your book from the Scapa trip, now that would be something nice

TheDarkWraith · 03-07-11, 05:45 PM

a string buffer in Python can only hold x amount of characters. I've found a solution to this though. We define multiple AIText= entries where each AIText is a paragraph of text.
We have to also define an [AdditionalInfoEnd] header after all the AITexts.

I've also fixed the formatting problem when images are embedded into the text.

Trevally. · 03-07-11, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

a string buffer in Python can only hold x amount of characters. I've found a solution to this though. We define multiple AIText= entries where each AIText is a paragraph of text.
We have to also define an [AdditionalInfoEnd] header after all the AITexts.

I've also fixed the formatting problem when images are embedded into the text.

Good news TDW

Zedi · 03-08-11, 03:04 AM

Forgot to mention that the <b> tag is not working. I can see the tag in SOAN displayed as normal text.

TheDarkWraith · 03-08-11, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

Forgot to mention that the <b> tag is not working. I can see the tag in SOAN displayed as normal text.

that's correct. Until I release the next test version it will.

elanaiba · 03-08-11, 10:42 AM

Maybe actual scans from german recognition manuals could be included, where available?

Zedi · 03-08-11, 12:01 PM

Is the next step I wanna make, but so far I found no valid link to something like this. All available scans are sold for money. Found some cool drawings for merchants but they are copyrighted.

Another thing I had in mind was to add those height lines in background of every ship, as it was in the older recon manuals, but not sure if is any use doing that.

Sailor Steve · 03-09-11, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

Just gathering data about the C1-B class is a major pita.

What do you have so far? I don't have a lot of information either, but I do have this link:
http://www.usmm.org/c1ships.html

My work with ship names in SH3 has taken me in a different direction, gathering information on individual names rather than classes. It drives me crazy that they can make so many improvements, yet manage to break things that worked before. I have a huge amount of information collected on individual merchant ships - tonnage, dates, type - just waiting to be applied to SH5, once the ships are there.

Zedi · 03-09-11, 12:03 PM

In particular, Im talking about C2 S B1 class. I know the link posted by you, but not much info there. Best I found so far is this page dedicated to the C2 class, including the c3 s b1. Also with cool drawings, pity that everything is copyrighted.

I finished the merchants, carriers, capital ships and Trevally finished the oilers. Escort ships and troop transport are left to be done, but I got no more energy and time to continue. I have the passion, but not the time. First post have a download link to what is done so far.

Also waiting for TDW to finish the Library app and debug the clipping text in SOAN.

03-06-11, 05:31 PM	#46
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Good work Church __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

03-07-11, 03:03 PM	#51
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Im really looking forward to the library feature. Might even take my camera to the Scapa Flow war museum on the island of Hoy __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

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elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Maybe actual scans from german recognition manuals could be included, where available? __________________ With strength I burn...

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03-07-11, 03:35 PM	#52
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	When the content is inserted I always run a search for [ ; double space etc. So im pretty sure is not that the cause. My problem is that Im getting really tired and also bored, even if I just copy/paste.. this is just too much. Started the BB's, but my eyes hurts already. I also wish the Library would work already, I need a change and do something else.. :/ Like reading your book from the Scapa trip, now that would be something nice

03-07-11, 05:45 PM	#53
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	a string buffer in Python can only hold x amount of characters. I've found a solution to this though. We define multiple AIText= entries where each AIText is a paragraph of text. We have to also define an [AdditionalInfoEnd] header after all the AITexts. I've also fixed the formatting problem when images are embedded into the text.

03-08-11, 03:04 AM	#55
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Forgot to mention that the <b> tag is not working. I can see the tag in SOAN displayed as normal text.

03-08-11, 12:01 PM	#58
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Is the next step I wanna make, but so far I found no valid link to something like this. All available scans are sold for money. Found some cool drawings for merchants but they are copyrighted. Another thing I had in mind was to add those height lines in background of every ship, as it was in the older recon manuals, but not sure if is any use doing that.

03-09-11, 12:03 PM	#60
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	In particular, Im talking about C2 S B1 class. I know the link posted by you, but not much info there. Best I found so far is this page dedicated to the C2 class, including the c3 s b1. Also with cool drawings, pity that everything is copyrighted. I finished the merchants, carriers, capital ships and Trevally finished the oilers. Escort ships and troop transport are left to be done, but I got no more energy and time to continue. I have the passion, but not the time. First post have a download link to what is done so far. Also waiting for TDW to finish the Library app and debug the clipping text in SOAN.