California could become the strictest Gun Control State in the Union soon

[Wolferz]

Putting the arguments for Liberal Democrat or Conservative Republican blame aside, because both parties are in collusion on about every issue,
I see gun control as being merely hitting what you aim at.
The first red flag pops up when you look at the well regulated militias who protect the free states. They have been regulated by the federal government for years now and are usually the first to be shoved into harms way. Followed closely by the reserves, then the regulars.

There is too much back door wrangling going on in many states and the congress to turn our constitutional rights into privileges.

Regulating and recording ammunition purchases is just another way to circumvent our rights. Loading your own ammo really won't work either, because they'll just regulate and record your powder and percussion cap shell purchases.
Catch 22? Hell yes!
I hate dictators! It's a pity that most are unable to recognize them.
Ostriches with their heads buried I suppose.

[soopaman2]

I would rather go back to cold war, and diving under my desk in duck and cover drills, than the farce we gotta deal with now.

I am so reminded by the cold war fears, except now I know I may end up in a cuban prison if some overpaid government agent hates what I post.

Senator McCarthy is cackling in his grave.

George Orwell is even happier.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I am liberal by belief, but ya mess with guns, you may as well revoke the bill of rights as a whole, see how many happy voices there are then.

I like guns. I own one. But I don't really get all spun up over gun registration or waiting period laws though, since it doesn't really stop the people who want guns from getting them. But then again I think gun bans are pretty silly too. So I guess if that makes me somewhat of a pro-gun liberal, so be it.

Not like it would matter one bit if there was ever an armed rebellion, a drone strike would make you a grease spot no matter what kind of gun you were holding.

But in the words of the wise philosopher Notorious BIG - "there's gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing if my burglar alarm starts ringing"

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Although I question the author's use of "representative democracy" over "constitutional republic".

They're not mutually exclusive and our government, both state and federal, includes many elements of rep. dem. Splitting hairs.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

California is so messed that after the nuclear war in the Fallout universe the "New California Republic" forms of course with good intentions but in the end it winds up as a useless bureaucracy.

The alternatives to which are an authoritarian state-capitalism, anarcho-capitalist feudal system and a totalitarian fascist police state. What does that say about the state of politics?

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The alternatives to which are an authoritarian state-capitalism, anarcho-capitalist feudal system and a totalitarian fascist police state. What does that say about the state of politics?

That most people think that their system is the ideal way to do things and the others are foolish.Really though a compromise is best in most cases I think.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I would rather go back to cold war, and diving under my desk in duck and cover drills, than the farce we gotta deal with now.

I am so reminded by the cold war fears, except now I know I may end up in a cuban prison if some overpaid government agent hates what I post.

Senator McCarthy is cackling in his grave.

George Orwell is even happier.

Herman Goering called it out before we were even born.

What people need to start asking themselves, is, "Do I want my descendents to live without the same liberty and freedoms that I had when I was born?" because we ARE at a crossroads, and we really do have a ruling class, (a serious argument for congressional term limits) that have been in a slow but steady process of securing more power for themselves, and they've been using the Terrorism boogeyman as a blank check to do what they want.

It's a serious question that people need to ask themselves. Are you willing to let your children, or your childrens children live without the same freedoms and liberty that you had when you were born? I am not, and I am willing to go the full measure if it becomes necessary.

That said, we are a ways off from the Ammo box. (which to get back on topic, is exactly what the CA government wants to get rid of) The ballot box isn't too far off though, and failing that there's still the jury box. Let's just hope things don't ever have to go farther then that, but If they happen to in my lifetime, then I guess I will probably be participating in a new chapter in American history.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Herman Goering called it out before we were even born.

And James Madison long before he was born.
"Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.”

Although I question the author's use of "representative democracy" over "constitutional republic".

Though a direct democracy is not a republic, the ancient Greeks equated the two, and their governments are sometimes referred to as Republics. Therefore ancient Athens could be called a Democracy that is not a Republic.

In the Roman Republic the representatives were not elected, so Rome was a Republic that was not a Democracy.

"Representative Democracy" and "Republic" are so close that I think once again you are going out of your way to pick nits.

[Wolferz]

I'm sure Booz-Allen-Hamilton has you pegged on a list already, Mister Ducimus. Probably me as well, simply because I've had military training in explosives.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I think once again you are going out of your way to pick nits.

In this day and age, I scrutinize everything I read for political bias and to what degree it is biased. There's almost always an agenda, and there is no unbiased news source.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Wolferz

I'm sure Booz-Allen-Hamilton has you pegged on a list already, Mister Ducimus. Probably me as well, simply because I've had military training in explosives.

According to the DHS, I am already considered extremist because I believe in the Constitution of the United States.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And James Madison long before he was born.
"Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.”

Good point.

[soopaman2]

Me too Ducimus, I am extremist because I question my government.

Maybe we will be cellmates.

I'll show ya the tuck my junk and cluck like a chicken dance.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Me too Ducimus, I am extremist because I question my government.

Maybe we will be cellmates.

I'll show ya the tuck my junk and cluck like a chicken dance.

Nothing personal, and I'm not saying I don't like ya, but I hope that is NEVER the case. Because if it is, then just about everything in this country has gone horribly wrong. (not sure if that's a laughing joke or not )

[vienna]

Me too Ducimus, I am extremist because I question my government.

Maybe we will be cellmates.

I'll show ya the tuck my junk and cluck like a chicken dance.

I thought there was a provision against cruel and unusual punishment...

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[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by vienna

I thought there was a provision against cruel and unusual punishment...

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Nope all out the window.

My dance is not a punishment but a blessing.

Daniel Radcliffe (harry potter) did naked stuff with a horse, Yoko Ono did, err, she uhhh, errr...Uhhh whatever...

Do not fear art my friend. *clucks like a chicken*

[vienna]

My dance is not a punishment but a blessing.

He's too humble to say how proud he is of his modesty...


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[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Yeah Stealhead, mercury is serious crap.

It is why you see Tilapia becoming common, it grows fast and has little time to absorb Murcury, which is accumulative. Or as you ingest more, it builds up.

(edit, your old fish, Tuna or cod, crabs have a mercury content to them, as they take years before they are caught.)

I love sushi; is this why I'm mad as a hatter?!