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Feuer Frei! 08-16-13 03:39 AM

California could become the strictest Gun Control State in the Union soon
 
How? Ammunition Registry.

To soon yet to say how it'll pan out but it's a possibility.

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A group of bills moving through California's assembly and senate--including one to create a database for ammunition purchases--could create the strictest gun control laws of any state in the union.
SOURCE

Cybermat47 08-16-13 04:49 AM

In before the crazy posts that almost make me want to kill myself when I'm suffering from depression like I am now.

Ducimus 08-16-13 08:32 AM

I've heard about this awhile ago. I think it's completely idiotic for three reasons:

1.) This is just going to drive people to make their ammo purchases out of state. You do not have to be a resident of another state to buy ammo in it.

2.) They're going to lose some tax revenue.

3.) There are many sportsman like my father who really don't pay attention to this stuff. My dad goes upland bird hunting or deer/elk hunting on occasion. The instant people like him ahve to start registering ammo, it's going to get their attention.

I know for fact that If... no scratch that... WHEN this passes, ill probably be buying ammo for relatives. Just this year, I've already purchased almost 750 rounds of handgun ammo so my mom can get her practice in, because the stuff is nearly a dollar a round over there according to her.


As an aside, you can find a complete list of draconian PRC shennigans here:
( All 2013 Gun Legislation )

As for being the most strict, we'll see. The super progressive areas seem to be in a competition with one another as to who can take the biggest crap on peoples constitutional rights.

AVGWarhawk 08-16-13 08:41 AM

I'm not surprised. CA is it's own country operating under it's own laws and regulations. :doh:

Ducimus 08-16-13 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2100923)
I'm not surprised. CA is it's own country operating under it's own laws and regulations. :doh:

Well, it ain't called the Peoples Republic of California for no reason at all. :O:

Also known as the PRK by those that prefer to spell California with a K in reference to the former governator i guess. PRC, PRK, same thing. Other nick names is "Cantaffordya". Or you can combine the two, Peoples Reublic of Cantaffordya. As a former resident, I've earned my stripes to critique the place as much as i want.

AVGWarhawk 08-16-13 08:52 AM

San Andreas Fault. We gotz it.

Ducimus 08-16-13 08:56 AM

You know some day the "Big one" is gonna hit. I just hope my parents retire and move out of that cesspool before it does. When that earthquake hit's, the aftermath is probably gonna make Katrina look like small potato's. While i'm sure the damage to structures and infrastructures will be great, it's the lawlessness that will ensue that worries me most. Places like Pomona and other inner cities are going to be absolute hell holes, and there will be no escape from the state. The freeways will be all but impassable, trapping everyone there.

AVGWarhawk 08-16-13 09:00 AM

Yes, one day it will hit. I'm certain it is monitored closely in hopes of making a prediction when it might happen. Preparing ahead helps in the aftermath.

August 08-16-13 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2100920)
As for being the most strict, we'll see. The super progressive areas seem to be in a competition with one another as to who can take the biggest crap on peoples constitutional rights.

Yep the axe is almost ready to descend here in Massachusetts too. There are a raft of anti-2A bills from liability insurance to outright bans working their way though the legislature.

Sailor Steve 08-16-13 09:03 AM

This reminds me of the flap twenty years ago when someone was proposing putting serial numbers on bullets.
:rotfl2:

Of course one solution is to get a machine and make your own. :sunny:

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2100928)
...those that prefer to spell California with a K in reference to the former governator i guess.

It goes back much further than that. It's likely to make it look more "German" (i.e. "Nazi"). Don't forget the right-wingers who like to spell the former president's name "Klinton". I know Kalifornia predates that.

Similarly, the phrase "Californicate" is a lot older than the recent TV series. Back in 1972 there was a proposal to allow California to build their own dam in Utah to get the electricity they so desperately needed. Utah would have made money off of the deal, but eventually it was voted down. The phrase even then was "Don't Californicate Utah".

Ducimus 08-16-13 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2100940)
This reminds me of the flap twenty years ago when someone was proposing putting serial numbers on bullets.
:rotfl2:

Don't laugh, I'm not sure if it made it into law, but last I heard they are putting microstamp requirements on all handguns.



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Of course one solution is to get a machine and make your own. :sunny:
Reloading. I swear most everyone I know has a bench somewhere in their house.

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It goes back much further than that. It's likely to make it look more "German" (i.e. "Nazi"). Don't forget the right-wingers who like to spell the former president's name "Klinton". I know Kalifornia predates that.
Ok, i stand corrected. I didn't know that.


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Similarly, the phrase "Californicate" is a lot older than the recent TV series. Back in 1972 there was a proposal to allow California to build their own dam in Utah to get the electricity they so desperately needed. Utah would have made money off of the deal, but eventually it was voted down. The phrase even then was "Don't Californicate Utah".
Don't Californicate Utah? Now there's a slogan and train of thought I can get behind! :up:

soopaman2 08-16-13 11:31 AM

I do not mean this any demeaning way towards anyone who lives there...

Why is this state always the benchmark of liberal?

And despite the failures is always emulated by other states.

I am liberal by belief, but ya mess with guns, you may as well revoke the bill of rights as a whole, see how many happy voices there are then.

When you are forced to quarter troops, or drawn and quartering is an acceptable death, no due process, guillty before proven innocent...

Once you lose one, the others will follow.

Don't listen to me though..I am scum

(I edited spelling here, my whole post is crap)

Ducimus 08-16-13 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2101041)
I do not mean this any demeaning way towards anyone who lives there...

Why is this state always the benchmark of liberal?

I'm going guess for two reasons:

1. The PRC tends to pass more progressive laws first.

2. Bay area / San francisco. I think somehow it is the posterchild of liberal progressive for varying reasons. Gay rights movement comes to mind, i think it's the cradle of it.


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And despite the failures is always emulated by other states.
Which is sad, because the exact opposite should be happening. The state being shown as a shining example of what not to do.

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I am liberal by belief, but ya mess with guns, you may as well revoke the bill of rights as a whole, see how many happy voices there are then.
Then among the liberal minded your probably a very small minority. Usually the words "liberal" and "guns" in the same sentence equates to "Anti".

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When you are forced to quarter troops, or drawn and quartering is an acceptable death, no due process, guillty before proven innocent...

Once you lose one, the others will follow.

Don't listen to me though..I am scum

(I edited spelling here, my whole post is crap)
You may find this video interesting.
Rights Versus Privileges

soopaman2 08-16-13 11:53 AM

Being silly. I am always being silly, to the point when I am serious It goes as a non sequitor event.:D

Anti guns is a test probe, as it is the easiest to take away in our bill of rights.

Liberal? I do not think grandma should starve to feed the banks, that is my liberalness.

Other than that, a free man should be able to do as he pleases as long as it does not infringe on another rights to life liberty, and the pursuit of happyness.

Maybe that is more libertarian or progressive? Not sure.

But not all Libs wish to kill guns.

*hugs his ar-15*

Ducimus 08-16-13 11:58 AM

Your probably more libertarian. Look into it, see if you fit the definition. Myself, I can't say i'm 100% libertarian, but most of my ideals and thoughts lean toward the libertarian camp.


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