Identifying nationality at night. - Page 3

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

There's a mod out there that makes the flags "brighter" at night.

Try this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152479

Does it ONLY make the flags a bit brighter and doesnt alter any other parameters making ID'ing easier?.This sounds a great little mod because the TOTALLY black flags at night is unrealistic in my opinion.
Just downloaded it,thanks pal

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 11:00 AM

Part of the problem is the way the newest (and best) monitors work. I'm still stuck with a 19" CRT that weighs nine thousand pounds. If anything my nights are too bright and I have no trouble seeing flags.

Captain Nemo · 03-23-10, 11:02 AM

For lone ships, another cheat is that if you are using TC greater than 8x, then when a ship is spotted if TC drops to 1x then it is an enemy ship, in addition once the ship is spotted, if you can't go faster than 32x it's an enemy. If when ship spotted is announced by your watch crew and the TC drops only to 8x it's a neutral, plus you will be able to go faster than 32x TC after the ship is spotted.

I have wondered if this can be rectified in SH Commander as I find it a bit annoying as I know in advance whether it's an enemy or neutral purely by seeing if TC has dropped to 1x or 8x when ship spotted is announced.

Nemo

Capt. Morgan · 03-23-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Does it ONLY make the flags a bit brighter and doesnt alter any other parameters making ID'ing easier?.

It only effects the flags, and only enough to make them identifiable at quite close range.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

It only effects the flags, and only enough to make them identifiable at quite close range.

Sounds just like what i'm after

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

For lone ships, another cheat is that if you are using TC greater than 8x, then when a ship is spotted if TC drops to 1x then it is an enemy ship, in addition once the ship is spotted, if you can't go faster than 32x it's an enemy. If when ship spotted is announced by your watch crew and the TC drops only to 8x it's a neutral, plus you will be able to go faster than 32x TC after the ship is spotted.

I have wondered if this can be rectified in SH Commander as I find it a bit annoying as I know in advance whether it's an enemy or neutral purely by seeing if TC has dropped to 1x or 8x when ship spotted is announced.

Nemo

That's odd to me. I use Commander and I get dropped to 1x for every ship spotted - enemy, neutral and friendly. Makes leaving my home port a lot of 'fun', but I use it anyway.

frau kaleun · 03-23-10, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's odd to me. I use Commander and I get dropped to 1x for every ship spotted - enemy, neutral and friendly. Makes leaving my home port a lot of 'fun', but I use it anyway.

Send WO Bernard to his quarters, you're gonna be hanging out on the bridge anyway, right?

That way he won't be gesichting yet another schiff every 2.3 seconds.

Flopper · 03-23-10, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Send WO Bernard to his quarters, you're gonna be hanging out on the bridge anyway, right?

That way he won't be gesichting yet another schiff every 2.3 seconds.

Great idea... naptime for him next time we pull out of port.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Part of the problem is the way the newest (and best) monitors work. I'm still stuck with a 19" CRT that weighs nine thousand pounds. If anything my nights are too bright and I have no trouble seeing flags.

I've wondered about this myself...

sharkbit · 03-23-10, 01:18 PM

I think video cards may have a lot to do with it to.
My old rig had a ATI card with a CRT monitor and I couldn't see anything at night.

New rig has a NVIDIA card and a LCD monitor and the nights are much brighter.

My old eyes prefer the latter.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

I think video cards may have a lot to do with it to.
My old rig had a ATI card with a CRT monitor and I couldn't see anything at night.

New rig has a NVIDIA card and a LCD monitor and the nights are much brighter.

My old eyes prefer the latter.

I have an ATI X800 Pro card with a new 20" LCD,and after a LOT of tweaking with the brightness and contrast I would have to say my monitor and games are pretty much perfect now.The higher resolutions via the SH3 res fix mod is a godsend too!

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Send WO Bernard to his quarters, you're gonna be hanging out on the bridge anyway, right?

That way he won't be gesichting yet another schiff every 2.3 seconds.

Unfortunately it didn't make any difference. I no longer got the announcement, but I still get dropped to 1x every three seconds. On the other hand I do most of my harbor cruising at 1x; it just makes it hard when I'm going through the Canal.

But I found a mod which makes some difference.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=ship+spotted

I've just put the latest version up at Subsim Downloads:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1654

It works and it works well, at least for me.

Jimbuna · 03-23-10, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

For lone ships, another cheat is that if you are using TC greater than 8x, then when a ship is spotted if TC drops to 1x then it is an enemy ship, in addition once the ship is spotted, if you can't go faster than 32x it's an enemy. If when ship spotted is announced by your watch crew and the TC drops only to 8x it's a neutral, plus you will be able to go faster than 32x TC after the ship is spotted.

I have wondered if this can be rectified in SH Commander as I find it a bit annoying as I know in advance whether it's an enemy or neutral purely by seeing if TC has dropped to 1x or 8x when ship spotted is announced.

Nemo

That's precisely my experience, I've yet to find a workaround.

frau kaleun · 03-23-10, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But I found a mod which makes some difference.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=ship+spotted

I've just put the latest version up at Subsim Downloads:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1654

It works and it works well, at least for me.

Awesome, I'll check it out.

Captain Nemo · 03-24-10, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's odd to me. I use Commander and I get dropped to 1x for every ship spotted - enemy, neutral and friendly. Makes leaving my home port a lot of 'fun', but I use it anyway.

Odd indeed, as jimbuna reports having the same issue as me and hasn't discovered a workaround. Can you post your Commander TC settings so that we can try to resolve this issue?

Nemo

Damo · 03-24-10, 10:14 AM

@ Jimbuna and Capt Nemo,

In the TC settings in SH3Commander, look for the 'When hunting' field and whack it up to whatever your upper limit is, then you won't be able to use the TC as an indicator of whether the ship is enemy or not. I have my TC go back to x1 whenever a ship is spotted, whatever it's allegiance but I too hated when I could bump up TC and if it didn't stop on 64 it wasn't worth shooting at.

I have my 'When being hunted' option at max too so I can't tell if I've been detected, bar the flood of ashcans and gunfire...

03-23-10, 11:00 AM	#32
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Part of the problem is the way the newest (and best) monitors work. I'm still stuck with a 19" CRT that weighs nine thousand pounds. If anything my nights are too bright and I have no trouble seeing flags. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-23-10, 11:02 AM	#33
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	For lone ships, another cheat is that if you are using TC greater than 8x, then when a ship is spotted if TC drops to 1x then it is an enemy ship, in addition once the ship is spotted, if you can't go faster than 32x it's an enemy. If when ship spotted is announced by your watch crew and the TC drops only to 8x it's a neutral, plus you will be able to go faster than 32x TC after the ship is spotted. I have wondered if this can be rectified in SH Commander as I find it a bit annoying as I know in advance whether it's an enemy or neutral purely by seeing if TC has dropped to 1x or 8x when ship spotted is announced. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

03-23-10, 01:18 PM	#39
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I think video cards may have a lot to do with it to. My old rig had a ATI card with a CRT monitor and I couldn't see anything at night. New rig has a NVIDIA card and a LCD monitor and the nights are much brighter. My old eyes prefer the latter. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-24-10, 10:14 AM	#45
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	@ Jimbuna and Capt Nemo, In the TC settings in SH3Commander, look for the 'When hunting' field and whack it up to whatever your upper limit is, then you won't be able to use the TC as an indicator of whether the ship is enemy or not. I have my TC go back to x1 whenever a ship is spotted, whatever it's allegiance but I too hated when I could bump up TC and if it didn't stop on 64 it wasn't worth shooting at. I have my 'When being hunted' option at max too so I can't tell if I've been detected, bar the flood of ashcans and gunfire... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

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