[REL] Revised engine telegraph - Page 3

Arclight · 03-19-10, 04:54 PM

Can't say I agree; disconnect between spoken and text just makes people think "that's not right, is it?"

Sailor Steve · 03-19-10, 04:55 PM

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Meh, you start a line with a capital letter, not every word. I think the rules of grammer are pretty clear on that.

In speech, yes, but when it's a codified order it becomes, for practical purposes, one word. It was just an idea - no need to get defensive. On the other hand you might want to review the rules of spelling. They're pretty clear, too.

Arclight · 03-19-10, 05:03 PM

Who's defensive now?

Only thing I ever do is try to explain my reasoning.

End spellong is nut mye strungsuit.

Nor is English my native language, for that matter.

Sailor Steve · 03-19-10, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

Who's defensive now?

"Not I", said the fly.

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Only thing I ever do is try to explain my reasoning.

Dadgum internet doesn't give inflections again. Sorry for misunderstanding.

Arclight · 03-19-10, 06:47 PM

Hey, no worries.

Even with a ton of smilies it's way too easy to send the wrong message.

Really, I don't take myself too seriously; better to not take my posts too seriously either.

Frederf · 03-19-10, 08:27 PM

Even if every word capitalized is proper, it's not consistent with the rest of the buffer text. Better to match than to be textbook. Besides, German naval language of the 40s might differ from US naval language of today.

LukeFF · 03-20-10, 12:24 AM

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Thanks Luke.

Coincidentaly exactly what I used for the first version, but didn't really mesh with the German voices.

Well, you can look at it one of two ways: one can either use the "literal" translation from German to English (which is what the devs did), or go for a more "localized" translation. Some things just don't translate "right" when translated literally from German to English. "Ahead Standard" is just one example of that.

Personally, for RFB, I'm going for more of what titles were used in the USN during the war instead of a literal translation. That means using titles like "soundman," "radioman", and the above listed engine order examples.

Arclight · 03-20-10, 01:09 PM

Would do the same if the aim was realism.

Would have expected something like "sonarman" or "sonaroperator", instead of "soundman". But then I'm not familiar with the official designations.

LukeFF · 03-22-10, 04:19 AM

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Would have expected something like "sonarman" or "sonaroperator", instead of "soundman". But then I'm not familiar with the official designations.

Actually, both "soundman" and "sonarman" are correct for the WWII US Navy era. "Soundman" was the initial rating created for sonar operators (in 1942), and later on in the war (1943) it was merged into the new "Sonarman" rating.

Arclight · 03-22-10, 04:31 AM

Similar situation for the radioman changing to "radarman", or were those separate ratings?

Maybe you can change the designation mid-game with a script.

Maximum accuracy, it's all in the details.

LukeFF · 03-22-10, 04:32 AM

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Similar situation for the radioman changing to "radarman", or were those separate ratings?

Separate ratings. There was also a "radio technician" rating created during the war as well.

Here, you can see 'em all here: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq78-3.htm

Arclight · 03-22-10, 05:05 AM

Cool.

Might ask Neal to change my rating to Jack of the Dust... or Loblolly boy.

Come to think of it, I might make some more corrections to stuff like this, mini-patch or something. If you don't mind, of course, credit where it's due.

LukeFF · 03-23-10, 04:25 AM

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Come to think of it, I might make some more corrections to stuff like this, mini-patch or something. If you don't mind, of course, credit where it's due.

Go for it!

Arclight · 03-23-10, 04:19 PM

Will do.

Might be a while though, think I got in a little over my head with the modding.

Frederf · 03-23-10, 04:45 PM

I loaded up SH5 with the English voices:
Minimum speed ahead
Ahead slow
Ahead half
Ahead full
Extreme speed ahead

...so in other words useless.

03-19-10, 04:54 PM	#31
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Can't say I agree; disconnect between spoken and text just makes people think "that's not right, is it?" __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-19-10, 05:03 PM	#33
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Who's defensive now? Only thing I ever do is try to explain my reasoning. End spellong is nut mye strungsuit. Nor is English my native language, for that matter. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-19-10, 06:47 PM	#35
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Hey, no worries. Even with a ton of smilies it's way too easy to send the wrong message. Really, I don't take myself too seriously; better to not take my posts too seriously either. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-20-10, 01:09 PM	#38
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Would do the same if the aim was realism. Would have expected something like "sonarman" or "sonaroperator", instead of "soundman". But then I'm not familiar with the official designations. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-22-10, 04:31 AM	#40
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Similar situation for the radioman changing to "radarman", or were those separate ratings? Maybe you can change the designation mid-game with a script. Maximum accuracy, it's all in the details. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-19-10, 08:27 PM	#36
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Even if every word capitalized is proper, it's not consistent with the rest of the buffer text. Better to match than to be textbook. Besides, German naval language of the 40s might differ from US naval language of today.

03-22-10, 05:05 AM	#42
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Cool. Might ask Neal to change my rating to Jack of the Dust... or Loblolly boy. Come to think of it, I might make some more corrections to stuff like this, mini-patch or something. If you don't mind, of course, credit where it's due. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-23-10, 04:19 PM	#44
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Will do. Might be a while though, think I got in a little over my head with the modding. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-23-10, 04:45 PM	#45
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	I loaded up SH5 with the English voices: Minimum speed ahead Ahead slow Ahead half Ahead full Extreme speed ahead ...so in other words useless.

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