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Old 11-22-07, 06:42 AM   #31
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Now here's an officer who knows how to keep his cool.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GHZMoPV1rog
Man for the three or more "*sshole" you can be assured you pay atleast 21€ more.
This is were you 'feelings getting hurt' should not muddle your judgment. Street level justice should be based on what you know and what the law states.
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Old 11-22-07, 06:46 AM   #32
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I dont like how people are now starting to generalise all cops. In any public service profession you'll get *******s with playing cards in their hats and an itchy finger. However, the vast majority of cops do quite a good job, and you Americans should be proud of that. Look what we have here - a couple guys who'll slap your wrist for a murder and make you pick litter up for a few months.
There are good cop/bad cop forces out there. All in all they do a great job and quite frankly their job sucks. Verbal abuse, physical abuse and mental toll after witnessing bad things. They do see some crazy crap. Even so, they must tackle everyday with their head on straight.
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Old 11-22-07, 07:26 AM   #33
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Now here's an officer who knows how to keep his cool.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GHZMoPV1rog
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Makes me glad I just work in police dispatch and not actually out on the streets.
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Old 11-22-07, 07:46 AM   #34
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After that he than performs an illegal search hoping to find drugs or a weapon to cover his ass.
Officers have the right to search your vehicle when they pull you over. It doesn't matter if it's for speeding, an illegal U-turn, or having a headlight out.

Other than that, I'm going to have to side with Ducimus here. He was told he passed notl only that 40mph sign seen in the vidoe but also another one farther back. The kid was warned multiple times to comply, yet he didn't comply and started walking back towards the vehicle. How does the officer know he's not going to jump in the vehicle and drive off? Or reach under the seat and pull out a gun?
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Old 11-22-07, 11:12 AM   #35
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He explains the situation a bit different to the other cop. Like the situation was prolonged and he repeatly gave instructions and warned about the taser.
He doesnt belong to his job.
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He explains the situation a bit different to the other cop. Like the situation was prolonged and he repeatly gave instructions and warned about the taser.
He doesnt belong to his job.
Yeh, noticed that too. Phew, drama-queen. :p
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Old 11-22-07, 02:24 PM   #37
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Officers have the right to search your vehicle when they pull you over. It doesn't matter if it's for speeding, an illegal U-turn, or having a headlight out.
Only if the officer has 'probable cause'. Illegal search and seizure is not allowed. Permission can be asked before the arrest. After the arrest, searching the vehicle is fair game.
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Something else is very funny here. The cop pulls over in front of the 40 mph sign. As the truck passes him then the pursuit starts. Now if the truck is driving the same speed as the officer (we can assume as he was behind the cop before he pulled over infront of the sign and then proceeded to pursue after he passed), the cop was baiting the driver. The cops are to do the speed limit. If he is blowing down the road then others well blow down the road at the same speed he is doing. It does not make speeding right at this point but if the cop is above the speed limit he is then baiting others to do the same.
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Something else is very funny here. The cop pulls over in front of the 40 mph sign. As the truck passes him then the pursuit starts. Now if the truck is driving the same speed as the officer (we can assume as he was behind the cop before he pulled over infront of the sign and then proceeded to pursue after he passed), the cop was baiting the driver. The cops are to do the speed limit. If he is blowing down the road then others well blow down the road at the same speed he is doing. It does not make speeding right at this point but if the cop is above the speed limit he is then baiting others to do the same.
I agree. If the cop isnt 'on-call' then he should drive by the limits. If I was somewhere I havent been to before and not familiar with the roads & limits and saw a police car drive at certain speed without flashes on, I'd assume that he is driving within the limit.
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He explains the situation a bit different to the other cop. Like the situation was prolonged and he repeatly gave instructions and warned about the taser.
He doesnt belong to his job.
Yeh, noticed that too. Phew, drama-queen. :p
It almost seems as if he is trying to convince himself (other officer) that he handled this in the correct way.
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The cop was 100% right and just in his actions.

Bottom line is the guy failed to follow the direction(s) of the officer. The cop has no way of knowing what the guy is thinking. People refusing to obey a simple thing like stop and turn around, is what gets cops killed. He could have just as easily pulled a gun.

I bet if you follow up on this, no action will be taken against the cop. He did everything by the book. Hopefully the driver was charged and convicted of resisting arrest. He deserves it.

It's doesn't matter what the original infraction was. Speeding, running a stop sign, littering. It just doesn't matter. Once he decided to stop following instructions and make unsafe moves, he was putting everyone there at risk.
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Now here's an officer who knows how to keep his cool.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GHZMoPV1rog
Man for the three or more "*sshole" you can be assured you pay atleast 21€ more.
This is were you 'feelings getting hurt' should not muddle your judgment. Street level justice should be based on what you know and what the law states.
It's not so much a 'feelings getting hurt', but it's an offence to the law here if you insult an officer, and I guess it's not much different on the other side of the pond, which apparently costs 21€.
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Old 11-22-07, 04:46 PM   #43
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The cop was 100% right and just in his actions.

Bottom line is the guy failed to follow the direction(s) of the officer. The cop has no way of knowing what the guy is thinking. People refusing to obey a simple thing like stop and turn around, is what gets cops killed. He could have just as easily pulled a gun.

I bet if you follow up on this, no action will be taken against the cop. He did everything by the book. Hopefully the driver was charged and convicted of resisting arrest. He deserves it.

It's doesn't matter what the original infraction was. Speeding, running a stop sign, littering. It just doesn't matter. Once he decided to stop following instructions and make unsafe moves, he was putting everyone there at risk.
you've got to be kidding me, I know you shouldn't get into arguments with law enforcment, but the officer could have atleast told him what he was about to sign, maybe he would've signed it then, we'll never know, but the officer instead let's this situation get out of control. The officer was being confrontational from the start, he was probably right with waving him out of traffic for driving too fast, but if this guy wants to know what his speed was and what he is signing, it shouldn't be too much to ask of the officer to tell him, let him sign the ticket and wish him a safe journey or whatever. "the cop has no way of knowing what the guy is thinking", well I guess he lived the life of an eremite till the day he became a cop, because I think we learn how to read peoples faces and how others might feel in a situation like this by reading the faces by the age of 6 or something, well atleast long before you can apply for law enforcment.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3899692&page=1


Update on Taser First and Answer Questions Later Cop.
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Taser Probe: Trooper Acted Reasonably

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