Why does the crew look so tiny?

[Ark]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Actually, they're bigger than any German boats (Including IXDs)

Really?

I didn't know that. I thought they were somewhere inbetween the IX and D.

Yikes..

[Shaffer4]

Gato:

• Displacement: 1526 tons (1550 t) surfaced,
  2424 tons (2460 t) submerged
• Length: 307 ft (93.6 m) waterline, 311 ft 9 in (95.0 m) overall
• Beam: 27 ft 3 in (8.31 m)
• Draft: 15 ft 3 in (4.65 m)
• Test depth: 300 ft (90 m)
• Speed: 20¼ knots (37.5 km/h) surfaced, 8¾ knots (16 km/h) submerged
• Armament: 10 x 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (6 forward, 4 aft, 24 torpedoes); 1 x 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal AA gun, 2 x .50 cal (12.7 mm) and 2 x .30 cal {7.6 2mm} machineguns)
• Crew: 80 – 85 officers and men
• Powerplant: •4 x 1350 hp (1 MW) 16 cyl General Motors 278A diesel engines (except SS228-239 and SS275-284 10cyl Fairbanks-Morse 38D-1/8), •2 x 1370 hp (1020 kW) General Electric electric motors (except SS228-235 Elliott Motor or SS257-264 Allis-Chalmers) (two 126-cell Exide main storage batteries {except SS.261, 275-278, & 280 Gould})
  • two shafts
• Range: •11,800 nm at 10 knots (21,900 km at 19 km/h) surfaced
  • 100 nm at 3 knots (185 km at 5.6 km/h) (maximum) submerged
• Submerged Endurance:
  48 hours

IXD:

• Displacement: surfaced 1610 t, submerged 1799 t
• Length: overall 87.6 m (287 ft 5 in), pressure hull 68.5 m (224 ft 9 in)
• Beam: overall 7.5 m (24 ft 7.3 in), pressure hull 4.4 m (14 ft 5 in)
• Draft: 5.4 m (17 ft 9 in)
• Height: 10.2 m (33 ft 6 in)
• Power: surfaced 4400 horsepower (3300 kW) diesel, submerged 1000 horsepower (746 kW)
• Speed: surfaced 20.8 knots (38.5 km/h), submerged 6.9 knots (12.8 km/hj)
• Range: surfaced 12,750 miles at 10 knots (23,600 km @ 19 km/h), submerged 115 miles at 4 knots (213 km @ 7 km/h)
• Torpedo tubes: 4 bow, 2 stern (24×55 cm {21.7 in} torpedoes)
• Deck gun: Utof 105/45 with 150 rounds
• Crew: 55 to 63 men
• Max depth: 230 m (750 ft)

[Ark]

Holy crap...the Gato class is longer than a football field.

[DaMaGe007]

Clearly the Americans were over compensating for somthing...

[Tigrone]

No merde. These are not little European economy cars for rush hour traffic in town. These are serious highway crusiers for long distance travel. 44 magnum boats.

"I fear we have just awakend a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve," Admiral Yamamoto.

"And dear Lord about our enemies, ignore their heathen prayers and help us blow those little bastards straight to hell." Hal Moore, Colonel, 1/7th Cavalry, before the Battle of the Ia Drang.

[Crosseye76]

Big boats for a Big war.

[flyingdane]

Bigger galley.

[Tigrone]

That would tend to make the crew look bigger though?

[Sailor Steve]

I disagree. In Ark's first 'SH4' shot the man at the deck gun's head is just about the same height compared with the later photo; that is, his head is just above the deck level for the AA gun mount. It looks okay to me.

[flintlock]

Nothing scientific, just a casual observation--though the scale looks perfectly fine to me.

If your Ubisoft and your making a Subsim for the second time, I would think
that not checking the scale of things would be like driving your car in
reverse without looking back.

Scale looks fine to me.

[Ark]

Originally Posted by boatfull

If your Ubisoft and your making a Subsim for the second time, I would think
that not checking the scale of things would be like driving your car in
reverse without looking back.

I take it you haven't seen the size of the plants on the seafloor. lol

[The WosMan]

Having been to the USS Cod I can personally say that the scale in the game looks right. Those conning towers are huge, a lot bigger than the german ones. I am 6 foot and the tower on the Cod is a cut down version as well and it is big. We Americans always make things bigger and better. Now if you excuse me I am going to go drive my big SUV around town and burn some fuel so I can create some global warming to get rid of the below average temperature and snow on the ground. On Monday in Cleveland it was 74 degrees F and nice and today it is 28 degrees F. By Wednesday the weather is supposed to be back up to 67 degrees F so I expect to get a cold or flu any time soon.

[Takeda Shingen]

Remember, the USN was not under the type of ASW pressure that the Kriegsmarine was. For the Germans, the type VII was a balance of range and dive time capabilities. The IX's, however, were built for range, and had to assume the risk of a longer crash dive interval, which many of them paid for dearly. However, even running from the North Sea to the American Atlantic seaboard was not comparable to the range required of the Pacific War. Accordingly, boats had to be bigger, but largely, engine plants remained comparable to the Germans. As such, the navy's submarines were, like their Kriegsmarine counterparts, underpowered submersible torpedo boats. Don't expect them to handle like sports cars.

[nattydread]

average 18-24yr old american male of the time was 5'8" to 5'10" and 130-150lbs wasnt it?