LuftWolf and Amizaur's Realism Mod Poll #8: Akula TA HotFix? - Page 2

LuftWolf · 03-11-06, 08:51 PM

I've been playing around with this now for some time... and I still have not gotten a single broken TA.

Since the evidence and opinion are not in the clear majority to make the change, I am going to leave it.

That having been said, I can quickly release a hotfix if in the course of the next week or so, if the opinion changes.

Honestly, I haven't been playing the game enough recently to have a meaningful opinion on this.

Although, I hope that changes after tonight.

MaHuJa · 03-12-06, 11:26 AM

First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array.

I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod.

A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem.

LuftWolf · 03-12-06, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaHuJa

First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array.

I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod.

A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem.

That's exactly what I have come to think.

goldorak · 03-12-06, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaHuJa

First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array.

I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod.

A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem.

If it is so, then lets hope SCS fixes it in the next patch.

Nexus7 · 03-12-06, 05:45 PM

I don't use your Mod (yet), but since it's called realism Mod I wouldn't welcome such a change...

Btw, why did the Russians place it over there? :hmm:

Addictionally, IMHO it adds to the realism to have the TA breaking easily

suBB · 03-13-06, 01:45 AM

lw, leave akula TA and ALL TA as is...

whats going on here is these drivers are sitting at 0kts with the TA streamed around the planet .....5 times

then they try to make a change in depth, or accidentally hit E-reverse... the TA snaps like a twig...

no workarounds or repositioning of the TA has nothing to do it..

Its poor ownship control!!

goldorak · 03-13-06, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suBB

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Its poor ownship control!!

Oh please that is just BS

Before stating that people don't know how to drive the akula or the seawolf (I don't think Fish is a newbie on sub and neither am I) try actually to use those subs in multiplayer/single player and without any kind of error on part of the player the TA will be cut.
This is a bug, I will repeat as long as is necessary, as it wasn't present in the previous versions of DW

suBB · 03-13-06, 02:57 AM

Ill just repeat what luftwolf said .. if he doesnt mind

" I've been playing around with this now for some time... and I still have not gotten a single broken TA. "

correct me if im wrong but I think if this was a bug.. he wouldn't have said this..

suBB · 03-13-06, 03:00 AM

i do drive both platforms.. mostly akula.. and no cut TAs, shallow or deep .... since stock to 3.00 official

Dr.Sid · 03-13-06, 03:01 AM

I now agree that this happens only when sub reaches negative speed during ascent. This happens usualy when you go slow and make steep depth change. Then TA is cut and replacing wont help, becuase there seems to be a shortcut in the simulation: speed<0 then cut TA.

suBB · 03-13-06, 03:05 AM

MaHuJa wrote:
First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array.

I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod.

A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem.

ownship control = "increase your speeds a little"

GunnersMate · 03-13-06, 12:13 PM

Couldn't this be fixed in a patch?

MaHuJa · 03-13-06, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnersMate

Couldn't this be fixed in a patch?

That's where it will be fixed. (I have faith in that.)

Question is when - June? July?

suBB · 03-13-06, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaHuJa

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnersMate

Couldn't this be fixed in a patch?

That's where it will be fixed. (I have faith in that.)
Question is when - June? July?

welp i can't seem to snap the TA on any TA toting submerged platform.
So, what is there that needs to be fixed?!?!
My settings - all on, autocrew off
maneuvers are made both shallow and deep waters, multiplay/single play
still find it funny how LW claims the same thing (can't break TAs in his own mod)
So somebody give me a test case.... cuz i cant break them.....

TLAM Strike · 03-13-06, 02:55 PM

SubBB try this. With the Akula go to max depth, order Snorting depth and hit max time compresson. It may take a few tries but you should see a break around 30 m.

View Poll Results: Should I move the Akula TA under the prop for version of LWAMI intended for DW 1.03?
Yes, I don't want my TA to break so much.	10	40.00%
No, it would be ugly to have the wire come out of no where.	15	60.00%
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03-11-06, 08:51 PM	#16
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I've been playing around with this now for some time... and I still have not gotten a single broken TA. Since the evidence and opinion are not in the clear majority to make the change, I am going to leave it. That having been said, I can quickly release a hotfix if in the course of the next week or so, if the opinion changes. Honestly, I haven't been playing the game enough recently to have a meaningful opinion on this. Although, I hope that changes after tonight. __________________ LW

03-12-06, 11:26 AM	#17
MaHuJa Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 59.96156N 11.02255E Posts: 385 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array. I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod. A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem. __________________ Teaching DW newbies how to climb the food chain.

03-12-06, 05:45 PM	#20
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I don't use your Mod (yet), but since it's called realism Mod I wouldn't welcome such a change... Btw, why did the Russians place it over there? :hmm: Addictionally, IMHO it adds to the realism to have the TA breaking easily __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

03-13-06, 01:45 AM	#21
suBB Chief Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 326 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	NO NO NO NO annnnd NO lw, leave akula TA and ALL TA as is... whats going on here is these drivers are sitting at 0kts with the TA streamed around the planet .....5 times then they try to make a change in depth, or accidentally hit E-reverse... the TA snaps like a twig... no workarounds or repositioning of the TA has nothing to do it.. Its poor ownship control!!

03-13-06, 02:57 AM	#23
suBB Chief Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 326 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ill just repeat what luftwolf said .. if he doesnt mind " I've been playing around with this now for some time... and I still have not gotten a single broken TA. " correct me if im wrong but I think if this was a bug.. he wouldn't have said this..

03-13-06, 03:00 AM	#24
suBB Chief Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 326 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	forgot to mention... i do drive both platforms.. mostly akula.. and no cut TAs, shallow or deep .... since stock to 3.00 official

03-13-06, 03:01 AM	#25
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I now agree that this happens only when sub reaches negative speed during ascent. This happens usualy when you go slow and make steep depth change. Then TA is cut and replacing wont help, becuase there seems to be a shortcut in the simulation: speed<0 then cut TA.

03-13-06, 03:05 AM	#26
suBB Chief Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 326 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	case and point... MaHuJa wrote: First of all, the wire break has NOTHING to do with its actual placement. The problem is that the sub actually gets reverse speed, and THAT breaks the towed array. I do not believe that can be fixed in the mod. A workaround is to increase your speeds a little. If you keep 7-8 knots, and perhaps try to do it in steps (go shallow before go periscope depth) to minimize or even avoid the problem. ownship control = "*increase your speeds a little*"

03-13-06, 12:13 PM	#27
GunnersMate Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USS Sea Tiger Posts: 251 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Couldn't this be fixed in a patch? __________________ \"Sir they just fired an Exocet at us!\" \"Very well, Bosn pipe Sweepers\" I\'m having trouble with the radar, sir. What\'s wrong with it? I\'ve lost the bleeps, I\'ve lost the sweeps, and I\'ve lost the creeps.

03-13-06, 02:55 PM	#30
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	SubBB try this. With the Akula go to max depth, order Snorting depth and hit max time compresson. It may take a few tries but you should see a break around 30 m. __________________

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