Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

[Red Brow]

The very first Email I ever wrote was in the winter of 1992-93. Back then it was much like the Wild West. Clear up till 1998 most police forces didn't view the Cyber world as anything real. But I never viewed Email as secure for things I wouldn't want made public.

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

The only way to prevent spying on emails is to either host it yourself, or get a trusted friend to do it.


For example, we can all pitch in, and get @subsim.com emails. I personally own an @istolethis.info email

Nope. NSA can intercept and check all things going over the Internet.
It does not matter where you Host or send from.
If it's domestic?
They watch.
If it's off shore?
They watch harder.

Don't quote the Laws of the U.S.A. about this.
The NSA is above those laws and have been for years.

[Gerald]

^True words,

[Platapus]

I just read the 25 page proposed bill and I am not seeing any place where the government is being authorized to access contents of private E-mail without a warrant.

http://www.leahy.senate.gov/imo/medi...ndmentsAct.pdf

Could someone please cite the page and line number where this proposed bill authorizes the government to read your E-mail without a warrant?

I think that before any logical discussion can ensue (like that would happen here on GT) people should know what the bill actually says and not just rely on what a news commentator says about the bill.

I could be wrong, I might have missed it. But that's why such proposed bills have page and line numbers so that clear citations can be made concerning it.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by privateer

Nope. NSA can intercept and check all things going over the Internet.
It does not matter where you Host or send from.
If it's domestic?
They watch.
If it's off shore?
They watch harder.

Don't quote the Laws of the U.S.A. about this.
The NSA is above those laws and have been for years.

If you really want to keep everything a secret, protect the server side, than encrypt the message itself. Pretty good privacy works pretty good. Works 99.9% of the time.

Of course, if you are REALLY a wanted man, you can't really avoid anything can you? As outlined here:

[Gerald]

If the authorities want to listen or read the mail, so they do that,all logged per automatic, and that applies in most Western countries.

[August]

Originally Posted by Vendor

If the authorities want to listen or read the mail, so they do that,all logged per automatic, and that applies in most Western countries.

You know that might be true but that doesn't mean we shouldn't squawk as loudly and forcefully as possible every time issues like this comes up.

To ignore it is to give the government the green light to take that and more.

[Gerald]

I agree,

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Vendor

If the authorities want to listen or read the mail, so they do that,all logged per automatic, and that applies in most Western countries.

You know what, people often believe that the government has some top secret techniques that allow them to read everything.

However, I'll just say it like this, when done right, not even the government can break many common forms of encryption.

[Gerald]

All is not relevant, and in the case of encryption is a common citizens adequately protected and safety conscious, not included in the authorities' searches, this is determined by the normal filters in the recordings, which is added to the Internet via specific keys.