Will the DRM affect your Purchase? - Page 2

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-26-10, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaciejK

Isn't it incredible that with every news item bout the game it is looking worse and worse...

Maybe that is why it was all quiet on their front for so long ?
If I was them, I would be here fighting tooth and nail in order to squash the rumors of all things bad.
The absence of any word on so many subjects before makes me think that they are trying to figure out how far they can go and how much ( or how little ) they could get away with before they had to announce a delayed release. Then they will blame the delay on the outcry of loyal fans about DRM.
In time the game is released with all missing features and years, so they will not have to admit to originally wanting to release an unfinished game.

Greyghost · 01-26-10, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaciejK

Isn't it incredible that with every news item bout the game it is looking worse and worse...

These are my thoughts exactly. I was so excited when I saw they were doing another U-boat sim and then with the screens and trailors it looked fantastic. Then the news of only the Type VII, I can live with that. Then the war ends for you in '43, hmm that is odd but still not a deal breaker for me. This last one I am logged on as soon as I turn my computer on but what if I lose internet which does happen time to time? Am I unable to play until it comes back? Like a previous poster said you buy the game but don't actually own it because unless you are online you can't play. That I find disturbing. Enthusiasm level for this one is dwindling more and more with each new update.

floundericiousWA · 01-27-10, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaciejK

Isn't it incredible that with every news item bout the game it is looking worse and worse...

Maybe they're fighting an anti-hype battle...you know, lowering expectations so that when it's released and the first patch or two fixes the majority of remaining bugs, people will be pleasantly surprised?

It's a popular corporate mantra these days "always under-promise and over-deliver"

Snakeeyes · 02-22-10, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

This will be the second time I have forfeited a game I am passionate
about because the DRM system won't let me own the game after I have
paid for it.

It breaks my heart.

I second.

I've just surfaced after being out of radio contact for about 6 months now. I was excited when I heard about SH5 but can't believe what they are doing.

Well... if the Bears can choose to keep Lovie Smith in charge ANY management FUBAR is possible in the world.

Sorry Ubisoft... no DRM no cash from my wallet. I think Ubisoft will fold eventually on this when they don't profit.

OakGroove · 02-22-10, 04:13 AM

Just read an article on google`s and facebooks business models

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233773

Excerpt:

Quote:

The problem with buying things with your privacy is you really don't know how much you're paying. With money, five bucks is five bucks. But what is the value of your list of friends? If it's not worth much, your membership on Facebook may be the deal of a lifetime. If it's incredibly valuable, you're getting massively ripped off. Only the techies know how much your info is worth, and they're not telling. But the fact that they'd rather get your data than your dollars tells you all you need to know.

Wish more people would take a minute to think about how far reaching their buying decision on any Uplay injected title could be. If there was a general acceptance towards this kind of implementation, future escalation of the software is just an account away. Most DRM debates are centric on "Pirates" and companies loosing revenue because of. Piracy has always been there, for decades. Entertainment companies must have this position in their calculus, fully knowing that available DRM technology will protect their products only temporarily - and they openly admit it.

Seafireliv · 02-22-10, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OakGroove

Just read an article on google`s and facebooks business models

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233773

Excerpt:

Wish more people would take a minute to think about how far reaching their buying decision on any Uplay injected title could be. If there was a general acceptance towards this kind of implementation, future escalation of the software is just an account away. Most DRM debates are centric on "Pirates" and companies loosing revenue because of. Piracy has always been there, for decades. Entertainment companies must have this position in their calculus, fully knowing that available DRM technology will protect their products only temporarily - and they openly admit it.

I truly believe as well that this goes much further than just pirates or even just greed on UBI`s part.

If this kind of DRM becomes accepted, expect to see every single game and program start using it. Expect then, that every single time you start your PC they`ll be a rule that they know about it. expect then that you`ll be expected to pay a monthly fee to play.

Even expect that eventually, you`ll be required to supply your name and address and age and whatever else (WITH PROOF) before you can play the game you bought before you can install and when you do play to be paying monthly extra for the privelege.

OK, i`m going a bit extreme here, but neither did i expect to see SH5 plus EVERY UBI game going 24\7 until a month ago.

We can`t just accept this. UBI must change or go bankrupt as a lesson to other companies thinking of doing the same.

Do not buy. Please.

Brag · 02-22-10, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeyes

I second.

I've just surfaced after being out of radio contact for about 6 months now. I was excited when I heard about SH5 but can't believe what they are doing.

Well... if the Bears can choose to keep Lovie Smith in charge ANY management FUBAR is possible in the world.

Sorry Ubisoft... no DRM no cash from my wallet. I think Ubisoft will fold eventually on this when they don't profit.

If Ubisoft management is not reading this forum, they are ignorant idiots. If they don't stop pissing nearly everyone off, they deserve to go broke. SHV, Settlers and Assassins Creed II represent a lot of money to be lost.

If they don't get rid of DRM/OSP/Youplay we're going to see a spectacular train wreck.

Tomp · 01-26-10, 01:56 PM

I have no problem with Steam. In fact, if I had to buy a downloadable game, I'd rather have Steam than some of the other download purchased games I've owned. Most require you to email or call their company to get the license renewed whenever you rebuild or buy a new system. Steam is pretty simple and works well in that regard.

My biggest gripe with Ubi has been the quality of the product at release! I wasn't exactly happy to find that SH3 crashed as often as it did at release. In fact, many had problems just getting it installed! SH4 was little better. And with the problems UBI had with Starforce, they should have rejected the scheme before even releasing it. If they didn't know it would cause so many problems they must not have tested it enough!

Anyway, I think I'll wait to hear the gripes before getting in this time. Let's see if they learned their lesson.

Tom P.

SteamWake · 01-26-10, 02:00 PM

What does Steam have to do with this?

Kapitanleutnant · 01-26-10, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

What does Steam have to do with this?

Not much, but Steam is an example of a good, unintrusive online authentication service.

Dowly · 01-26-10, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

Not much, but Steam is an example of a good, unintrusive online authentication service.

Oh dear... *waits for Steamwake's ranting post*

(atleast I think it was Steamwake who wasnt that fond of Steam.

)

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh dear... *waits for Steamwake's ranting post*

(atleast I think it was Steamwake who wasnt that fond of Steam.

)

There's always someone who's not fond of something

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-26-10, 02:09 PM

I had a game called Gunboat, a long time ago. At the beginning of each mission, you had to enter the base. In order to do so you had to give the days password in form of an answer to a question, and had to use a wheel cypher to figure it out. I just thought of how it was really an anti pirate device the other day. This is from a game 15 years old, why not do the same thing now? I'd be cheaper, since that is what it's all about now isn't it?

Shigawire · 02-13-10, 07:17 AM

I suspect that this is going to cause the opposite effect of what was intended. Once the wiz-kids get around this horrible DRM, which is inevitable, the game is going to get pirated even more than previous titles.

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-26-10, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Could have done that in SH5, in game messages coded with enigma, and the codes in the paper manual

Hell yeah! Didn't think of that !

It would take all of the Kings Men,and ULTRA to pirate it then!

View Poll Results: Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase
"Makes no difference to me"	191	15.44%
I'll cancel my pre-order & wait	148	11.96%
Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM	761	61.52%
Not going to at all now.	137	11.08%
Voters: 1237. You may not vote on this poll

01-26-10, 01:56 PM	#8
Tomp Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	DRM I have no problem with Steam. In fact, if I had to buy a downloadable game, I'd rather have Steam than some of the other download purchased games I've owned. Most require you to email or call their company to get the license renewed whenever you rebuild or buy a new system. Steam is pretty simple and works well in that regard. My biggest gripe with Ubi has been the quality of the product at release! I wasn't exactly happy to find that SH3 crashed as often as it did at release. In fact, many had problems just getting it installed! SH4 was little better. And with the problems UBI had with Starforce, they should have rejected the scheme before even releasing it. If they didn't know it would cause so many problems they must not have tested it enough! Anyway, I think I'll wait to hear the gripes before getting in this time. Let's see if they learned their lesson. Tom P. __________________ The ocean doesn\'t have a kiddie pool!

01-26-10, 02:00 PM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What does Steam have to do with this? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

01-26-10, 02:09 PM	#13
Sgtmonkeynads Ships Secretary Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MilesCity Montana Posts: 583 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 0	I had a game called Gunboat, a long time ago. At the beginning of each mission, you had to enter the base. In order to do so you had to give the days password in form of an answer to a question, and had to use a wheel cypher to figure it out. I just thought of how it was really an anti pirate device the other day. This is from a game 15 years old, why not do the same thing now? I'd be cheaper, since that is what it's all about now isn't it? __________________ Just help someone.....it makes a difference

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02-13-10, 07:17 AM	#14
Shigawire Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norway, Brønnøysund Posts: 53 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I suspect that this is going to cause the opposite effect of what was intended. Once the wiz-kids get around this horrible DRM, which is inevitable, the game is going to get pirated even more than previous titles.