Massive Takedown of Anti-Scientology Videos on YouTube

[Skybird]

When tolerance does no longer ask whether the object is worth to be tolerated or not, it becomes an end in itself. In practical consequence it is not any different than appeasement, then. Such kind of "tolerance" deserve our utmost disgust. It is self-deception, weakness and cowardice.

In France the scientology sect again faces a court trial over organised fraud. It has been sentenced for that before, but sometimes also evaded such a sentence. In Germany, all in all it is being seen as anti-constitutional and a threat to the basic order of the german state. Several federal states have it under observation by federal intelligence services. scientology itself speaks of Germany as its most important battlefield for the fight to infiltrate Europe's institutions and societies.

They are as wanted as bone cancer.

[Frame57]

Yikes! And I thought I had problems with the JW's

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Yikes! And I thought I had problems with the JW's

Who?

[Digital_Trucker]

Jehovah's Witnesses. They drag their children around knocking on doors wanting to "give" you their little "tracts".

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Jehovah's Witnesses. They drag their children around knocking on doors wanting to "give" you their little "tracts".

Ofcourse, they are comparable in many ways.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Ofcourse, they are comparable in many ways.

The JW.s do, on the face of it, seam to be a little more genuine.
They certainly have less money changing hands AFAIK.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Letum

The JW.s do, on the face of it, seam to be a little more genuine.
They certainly have less money changing hands AFAIK.

I know many, and they are in many ways normal but they arent free to think much on their own. They do give a fair share of money and i understand they send it to US. Now if they only print more gospel with it thats their business but somehow i have my doubts. The threats and extortion of members wanting to leave is also common feature.

[Wolfehunter]

Someone has to put this bogus church into place. How can they actually file this? Isn't there a way for the other side to defend themselves? I guess the powerful with cash can buy the law off?:hmm:

[SS107.9MHz]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Jehovah's Witnesses. They drag their children around knocking on doors wanting to "give" you their little "tracts".

Eheh, in Portugal it's JW and Mormons ehehe, though some of those guys are quite nice when they aren't trying to convert this empirical/racionalist+atheist

[Stealth Hunter]

I saw two kids yesterday who I think were Jehovah's Witnesses... had white dress shirts on with black dress pants and black neckties. They were hauling around backpacks, too. Saw them on the side of the road when I was heading into town.

[SS107.9MHz]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I saw two kids yesterday who I think were Jehovah's Witnesses... had white dress shirts on with black dress pants and black neckties. They were hauling around backpacks, too. Saw them on the side of the road when I was heading into town.

We only get old mad ladies trying to feed us "The Witness" newspapper:rotfl:
Yhey usually wear those thick glasses (we called them bottle bottom glasses) and aren't very tall (And I'm not tall to begin with)... The mormons are almost always big tall guys very white and very blond... They look like Dutch guys white white shirts and suspenders

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When tolerance does no longer ask whether the object is worth to be tolerated or not

It's not really "tolerance" if you pick and chose what you tolerate.
Excuse the Reductio ad Hitlerum, but in the 1930s the Germans where very
tolerant by your standard, they just decided the Jews where not "worth to be
tolerated".

A better way to go about it is to tolerate everything you can that does not unjustly
infringe upon others.

For this reason scientology's disgraceful activities should not be tolerated.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

It's not really "tolerance" if you pick and chose what you tolerate.
Excuse the Reductio ad Hitlerum, but in the 1930s the Germans where very
tolerant by your standard, they just decided the Jews where not "worth to be
tolerated".

A better way to go about it is to tolerate everything you can that does not unjustly

Disagree. Tolerance must end where ongoing tolerance could only be gotten at the cost of self-denial and self-deconstruction. But this criterion today all to often is no longer considered. Thus we even tolerate those who do not tolerate us anbd abuse our tolerance to enforce their own interests at out costs. That is no tolerance of ours, even if we call it that. It is circumcision between the ears, and it leads to the absence of any criterions by which we could define what we are and what we tolerat5e - and what we are noit and what we do not tolerate.

If we tolerate all and everything and mistaken that as tolerance, our own identity starts lacking any features that define it as such. And this feeds back on our demand even what should not be tolerated. Becasue we have stripped purselves of the needed identity and therefore the standards by which we could judge that this thing could be tolerated - and that thing better not. We are identity-less neuters, then - and prey for those who do not share our mental disorder.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Disagree. Tolerance must end where ongoing tolerance could only be gotten at the cost of self-denial and self-deconstruction. But this criterion today all to often is no longer considered. Thus we even tolerate those who do not tolerate us anbd abuse our tolerance to enforce their own interests at out costs. That is no tolerance of ours, even if we call it that. It is circumcision between the ears, and it leads to the absence of any criterions by which we could define what we are and what we tolerat5e - and what we are noit and what we do not tolerate.

If we tolerate all and everything and mistaken that as tolerance, our own identity starts lacking any features that define it as such. And this feeds back on our demand even what should not be tolerated. Becasue we have stripped purselves of the needed identity and therefore the standards by which we could judge that this thing could be tolerated - and that thing better not. We are identity-less neuters, then - and prey for those who do not share our mental disorder.

Tolerating only those things you like or those things you feel fit with in your
identity is called "intolerance".

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by Letum

Tolerating only those things you like or those things you feel fit with in your
identity is called "intolerance".

Well but somewhere our tolerance has to stop... so how would you define tolerance?