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Old 09-04-08, 12:07 PM   #1
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Thought I'd answer a few of these from the point of view of a foreign person. Actually I think both parties have some serious problems to solve if they want to improve US's standing around the world.
Most of us don't care how you view us. The loud voice of our lefty media outlets emphasize what you want to hear. But that's all it is. You guys seriously need to deflate your national ego. What are you going to do to improve your standing in our eyes?

And your rebuttals show you have no clue as to who we are in America. It's all complete nonsense.
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Old 09-04-08, 02:08 PM   #2
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Thought I'd answer a few of these from the point of view of a foreign person. Actually I think both parties have some serious problems to solve if they want to improve US's standing around the world.
Most of us don't care how you view us. The loud voice of our lefty media outlets emphasize what you want to hear. But that's all it is. You guys seriously need to deflate your national ego. What are you going to do to improve your standing in our eyes?

And your rebuttals show you have no clue as to who we are in America. It's all complete nonsense.
Like I said earlier, to me the US parties are like two mafia families. What's the point of choosing between bad options.
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Old 09-04-08, 02:51 PM   #3
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Like I said earlier, to me the US parties are like two mafia families. What's the point of choosing between bad options.

I believe South Park provided an excellent analogy to this problem in an episode in which the children had to choose between a "Giant Douche" and a "Turd Sandwich" as their school mascot.
To quote the episode as closely as I am able; "It's always about choosing between some douche and some turd."
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Old 09-04-08, 03:41 PM   #4
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"It's always about choosing between some douche and some turd."
The entire political system summed up as well as it can be.

Please note that I did NOT, repeat NOT, say the US political system. It applies to political systems all over this planet. If I'm wrong someone please name a political system that involves no douches and no turds
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Old 09-05-08, 07:30 AM   #5
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"It's always about choosing between some douche and some turd."
The entire political system summed up as well as it can be.

Please note that I did NOT, repeat NOT, say the US political system. It applies to political systems all over this planet. If I'm wrong someone please name a political system that involves no douches and no turds
well this depends on whether you have a two-party system or not. In Saudi Arabia, for example, you just get the turd...or is it the douche?
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Old 09-04-08, 08:23 PM   #6
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Thought I'd answer a few of these from the point of view of a foreign person. Actually I think both parties have some serious problems to solve if they want to improve US's standing around the world.
Most of us don't care how you view us. The loud voice of our lefty media outlets emphasize what you want to hear. But that's all it is. You guys seriously need to deflate your national ego. What are you going to do to improve your standing in our eyes?

And your rebuttals show you have no clue as to who we are in America. It's all complete nonsense.
This seems lik a converstion between a teenager and his parents... America doesn't care about what old mother Europe has to say, she's old she doesn't understand what a teencountry needs! But some years latter they'll come to accept their differences, and America wll see that ol' Europe was just trying to do what was best for her:hmm:

Now really, it's not that we think you has a nation have made a hash out of things... No You'v done brilliantly,, it's just that Everybody has got high expectations from you guys, and sometimes you get a little bit too cocky... And you tumble... And I'm sorry but this last adminstraton has taken a big one... I'm not asking if you think democrats would do a better job, sincerely I think that Gore is as sharp as a rounded log, but do you really think that Bush Junior has the profile of a leader of the major potency of th world (or is that Russia now... can't quite put my finger...)? Common? And someguys thing that McCain is a worst Republican than Junior?! c'mon even Bush Senior must think that McCain's a better guy... At least he's got better sence of humor!
Just think about it, if McCain and Bush Jr. came into this forum, wich one do you think would stay to chat? Mc would be an Admiral before Bushy even could understand half of the things we're saying here! (provided that someone could explain mcCain how to post - heard he' not a big fan of computers) ehehe
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Old 09-04-08, 08:38 PM   #7
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Thank you, SS107. Sea Demon in the past has shown his arrogance towards others. He once had the nerve to claim that all Middle-Easterners were terrorists.:rotfl: Childish steroetype, but I had to chuckle.
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Old 09-04-08, 10:59 PM   #8
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Thank you, SS107. Sea Demon in the past has shown his arrogance towards others. He once had the nerve to claim that all Middle-Easterners were terrorists.:rotfl: Childish steroetype, but I had to chuckle.
Yeah, idiot. You have a nasty habit of misrepresenting people's views and statements. Please find the statement I made saying "all people from the Middle East are terrorists". You will be searching this forum forever, because you won't find such a statment from me. I never made any such remark...fool.
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Although when looking at politics in my country there are still the occasional scandal etc. and problems with things like transparency. One party with a markedly anti-immigration policy is gaining ground so we have our own populists too. With the US it's a question of scale especially on the whole country - level, I guess the part that Europeans don't often see about the US is the state - level politics.
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Thank you, SS107. Sea Demon in the past has shown his arrogance towards others. He once had the nerve to claim that all Middle-Easterners were terrorists.:rotfl: Childish steroetype, but I had to chuckle.
Yeah, idiot. You have a nasty habit of misrepresenting people's views and statements. Please find the statement I made saying "all people from the Middle East are terrorists". You will be searching this forum forever, because you won't find such a statment from me. I never made any such remark...fool.
Well I managed to find one of your statements on gays in 5 minutes:


What absolute hogwash. I think it's the other way around. Homosexual's and their fellow activists are intolerant bigots to society at large and view anybody who disagrees with their agenda in complete disdain. Wishing to keep societal norms and working to those ends is denying nobody any rights. Homosexuals can marry, but only people of the opposite sex. Also, the right to marriage doesn't exist at all. But marriage is a well defined institution. I don't think many of the people of this thread can see the distinction. Nor do they want to.

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Old 09-05-08, 12:49 AM   #11
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Well I managed to find one of your statements on gays in 5 minutes:
Not exactly the quote you accused me of, right? That thread shows the elemental context of that statement. I don't regret making it. But nice try to save face by pulling anything out of your hat though. You simply can't find the false statement you accuse me of, so you just make anything up. Typical.

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Nice try at slanderous misrepresentation though.

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Old 09-05-08, 01:06 AM   #12
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By the way Stealth Hunter, here is a nice little slanderous gem regarding U.S. Military recruiters from you:



Don't make me laugh! My nephew lives in the Midwest (Missouri). The school he goes to has recruiters come there quite frequently (about once a month). Hell, he's snapped about a dozen photos of them using his cellphone. Nobody ever joins, of course, but those bastards try and trick them into joining (acting friendly, joking with the kids, you get the picture). Really pisses me off.


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Old 09-04-08, 11:16 PM   #13
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This seems lik a converstion between a teenager and his parents... America doesn't care about what old mother Europe has to say, she's old she doesn't understand what a teencountry needs! But some years latter they'll come to accept their differences, and America wll see that ol' Europe was just trying to do what was best for her:hmm:

sometimes you get a little bit too cocky....
Sounds very arrogant of you to say that "Ol' Europe" is just trying to keep America out of trouble. We had to take the lead role in rebuilding "Old Mother Europe" last century after you guys nearly destroyed yourselves, we intervened militarily helping to conduct regime change in Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy, and protected you from an expansionist and hostile Soviet Union for the last 50 years. How quickly these things are forgotten.

Actually, you guys need to worry about yourselves. You and the rest of the European continent as a whole are not perfect. Very flawed in fact. Very cocky of you to think otherwise......especially from what I've seen of you guys over there. Europe is nothing special in comparison to anybody else. And no, most of us don't care what you think about us or the decisions we make. Your press and ours make you think we do. But we really don't. Seriously, you guys may need to polish up your own image. Some of you guys look arrogantly ignorant to many of us. Not all of you, but those of you with this attitude do. What do you suppose you need to do to improve your own image to the USA? I mean, gee-whiz, I don't get where some of the people from your continent think that we "need" to impress you or gain your approval everytime we make a decision. We simply don't. Where the heck did you guys ever get that idea? It's quite comical, and reeks of arrogance. You may consider how you need to improve that image. I actually prefer to think of Europe as a mutual partner. While I may come across as harsh here, there is a point to it. We have benefitted from our relationship with you guys as well. But this whole notion that we owe you anything, need to "improve our image" to you, or that we need to strive to gain your approval in how we run our nation doesn't fly.

I won't address your views regarding either Mr. Bush or Mr. McCain.

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Old 09-05-08, 06:54 AM   #14
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This seems lik a converstion between a teenager and his parents... America doesn't care about what old mother Europe has to say, she's old she doesn't understand what a teencountry needs! But some years latter they'll come to accept their differences, and America wll see that ol' Europe was just trying to do what was best for her:hmm:

sometimes you get a little bit too cocky....
Sounds very arrogant of you to say that "Ol' Europe" is just trying to keep America out of trouble. We had to take the lead role in rebuilding "Old Mother Europe" last century after you guys nearly destroyed yourselves, we intervened militarily helping to conduct regime change in Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy, and protected you from an expansionist and hostile Soviet Union for the last 50 years. How quickly these things are forgotten.

Actually, you guys need to worry about yourselves. You and the rest of the European continent as a whole are not perfect. Very flawed in fact. Very cocky of you to think otherwise......especially from what I've seen of you guys over there. Europe is nothing special in comparison to anybody else. And no, most of us don't care what you think about us or the decisions we make. Your press and ours make you think we do. But we really don't. Seriously, you guys may need to polish up your own image. Some of you guys look arrogantly ignorant to many of us. Not all of you, but those of you with this attitude do. What do you suppose you need to do to improve your own image to the USA? I mean, gee-whiz, I don't get where some of the people from your continent think that we "need" to impress you or gain your approval everytime we make a decision. We simply don't. Where the heck did you guys ever get that idea? It's quite comical, and reeks of arrogance. You may consider how you need to improve that image. I actually prefer to think of Europe as a mutual partner. While I may come across as harsh here, there is a point to it. We have benefitted from our relationship with you guys as well. But this whole notion that we owe you anything, need to "improve our image" to you, or that we need to strive to gain your approval in how we run our nation doesn't fly.

I won't address your views regarding either Mr. Bush or Mr. McCain.
Ok maybe I didn't passed the idea I was intending too... People in Europe look to the USA and expect them to do good, expect them to do better than Europe, exactly for the reasons you've mentioned before.I thing it's in the interest of everyone that the USA have a strong economy, and good relatios abroad, because when they do, mostly there is a very good economic growth world over. But we can't view this as a competition, and we can talk about national pride and such, and collectve thinking, but Nations DON'T HAVE egos! people do! (let alone europe,or do you really thing that all of europe contries just formed a gestalt of ego to throw at america?). We're entitled to an opinion, as you are, and everybody is, even those idiots who wanted to kill those cartoonist over Maomé's (thats how in portugal we write mohamed) pictures, or those guys who choose not to accept evolution (tho I PITY THE FOOLS!) or the neonazi guys in europe (and Israel...:rotfl... For instance, I truly believe there's a lot more racism in europe than in the states, at least in general. I think that in Portugal or france or even the UK we won't see a black man running office in a long run (though with women we got ahead...but that's because we don't grow moustaches anymore, damnit!-long story...-) So what I said about ol europe as a mom and america as a teeeage daughter is just a smartass analogy that's suppose to be funny supposed to be funny (and a little bit thruthfull ehehe)... The thing about McCain and Bush was just to bust your balls and see if you'd burst in a unholy blast of posting anger, didn't work... would be funny...
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Old 09-05-08, 07:02 AM   #15
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The thing about McCain and Bush was just to bust your balls and see if you'd burst in a unholy blast of posting anger, didn't work... would be funny...
Well we do not feed the trolls here...
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