Top Ten Submarines....

JU_88 · 04-12-08, 10:41 AM

Glad to see the ol' T class up there, they certainly 'out gunned' their US and German counterparts - the 1st group T class could fire a whopping spread of 10 torpedos if they wanted....

If im not mistaken there were really 3 major factors that let RN T class subs down;

1) Low surface speed; I dont think any of the WW2 RN subs could achieve more than 14 knots, The 1st group T-class Lost a few knots due to its poor Bow design. The 2nd and 3rd group had the bow redesigned to boost performace - however they also removed the 1st group's some what unreliable bow caps which caused some additional streamlining issues, (but still an improvment overall.)

2) The S-class used oval shaped pressure hulls to accomodate the the 6 internal fore tubes, oval is not a strong as circular - and had a detremental effect on max depth. Not completley sure but I think the T class suffered from the same problem.

3) External Tubes on the T-class were quite unreliable too.

Alot of T-class boats were lost in the Mediteranien, at 84 meters long (thats 3 meters shorter than a type IXD2 Uboat) - they were just too darn big to operate comfortably in those waters. I guess by 1941 there just wasn't enough prey for RN subs in the North sea and Atlantic, so they sent them in to the Med - At least the trip through the Gibaltar straights would have been rather pleasent for British sub crews.

Gotta Love the T-class though

Umfuld · 04-12-08, 10:51 AM

Yeah, I've seen that show a few times. It's pretty good.

looney · 04-12-08, 10:57 AM

I'd love to see that show.. top 10 submarines.

Ofcourse the no1 can be only 1 the type 7.. Most ppl just know only 1 submarine the 7 or as many call em U-boat.

P.s. In Dutch there are 2 words for submarine:
1 Duikboat (=Dive boat) a vessel wich sails mostly surfaced like the WW2 era ships
2 Onderzeeer ("below sea-er" translated stricktly) New diesel/nuke subs.

Brag · 04-12-08, 11:21 AM

I wish I could remember the title or the author. I've read a fantastic book written by the CO of a T type about his experinces in the Med. I particularly liked his descripption of the submarine's systems and explanations of some of the maneuvers.

Maybe someone in this forum knows the book.

JU_88 · 04-12-08, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

I wish I could remember the title or the author. I've read a fantastic book written by the CO of a T type about his experinces in the Med. I particularly liked his descripption of the submarine's systems and explanations of some of the maneuvers.

Maybe someone in this forum knows the book.

Is it Kemps book?

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04-12-08, 10:41 AM	#1
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,811 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Glad to see the ol' T class up there, they certainly 'out gunned' their US and German counterparts - the 1st group T class could fire a whopping spread of 10 torpedos if they wanted.... If im not mistaken there were really 3 major factors that let RN T class subs down; 1) Low surface speed; I dont think any of the WW2 RN subs could achieve more than 14 knots, The 1st group T-class Lost a few knots due to its poor Bow design. The 2nd and 3rd group had the bow redesigned to boost performace - however they also removed the 1st group's some what unreliable bow caps which caused some additional streamlining issues, (but still an improvment overall.) 2) The S-class used oval shaped pressure hulls to accomodate the the 6 internal fore tubes, oval is not a strong as circular - and had a detremental effect on max depth. Not completley sure but I think the T class suffered from the same problem. 3) External Tubes on the T-class were quite unreliable too. Alot of T-class boats were lost in the Mediteranien, at 84 meters long (thats 3 meters shorter than a type IXD2 Uboat) - they were just too darn big to operate comfortably in those waters. I guess by 1941 there just wasn't enough prey for RN subs in the North sea and Atlantic, so they sent them in to the Med - At least the trip through the Gibaltar straights would have been rather pleasent for British sub crews. Gotta Love the T-class though

04-12-08, 10:57 AM	#3
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I'd love to see that show.. top 10 submarines. Ofcourse the no1 can be only 1 the type 7.. Most ppl just know only 1 submarine the 7 or as many call em U-boat. P.s. In Dutch there are 2 words for submarine: 1 Duikboat (=Dive boat) a vessel wich sails mostly surfaced like the WW2 era ships 2 Onderzeeer ("below sea-er" translated stricktly) New diesel/nuke subs.