GWX 2.0 - Cant seem to 1 shot a ship

Hylarion · 04-07-08, 03:43 AM

I almost always kill medium to big merchant ships with one torpedo (either magnetic under keel, or impact at the bow). Bust most of the time, the small ships are a real pain to down with torpedoes (even with magnetic). This week-end, I followed a coastal merchant for nearly 3 hours after a bow impact hit (15 m/s winds so no gun, and no more torpedoes left) and it never sank, although the bow was more often under than above the water.
On the other hand, I've seen several times small merchants break in two parts with 5 to 10 gun shells under the waterline around the middle of the ship...
Go figure.

seedoo · 04-07-08, 05:45 AM

maybe large merchant doesn't have a "break into 2" model? i have seen C3 and C2 in 2 pieces in GWX 2.0 but never any ship that is not in the stock game.

HunterICX · 04-07-08, 05:51 AM

Ah...well I by default fire 2 torpedo's in a salvo at a Ship.

spread them out so 1 hits the bow section, the other the Mid/stern.

if he floats for too long and the surface is clear I finish it off with the Deck gun

HunterICX

Jimbuna · 04-07-08, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

Ah...well I by default fire 2 torpedo's in a salvo at a Ship.

spread them out so 1 hits the bow section, the other the Mid/stern.

if he floats for too long and the surface is clear I finish it off with the Deck gun

HunterICX

Ya big girlie novice

Gairith · 04-07-08, 07:24 AM

I prefer to salvo only in convoys at the JUCIEY targets. Under normal situations I set one fish to magnetic and one to impact. Fire the magnetic first, open door on the back-up and wait. If it malfunctions I immediately fire the fish set to impact.

Generally speaking, torpedoes were very expensive and I do not want to waste them for fear of being keel-hauled by BdU.

Each Kaluen has his own preference in sending a ship to the bottom. This is mine.

seedoo · 04-07-08, 09:10 AM

i don't like firing in salvo. they 2nd torp has a high chance of pre-mature explosion... i alerted a CVE because of this

. i don't understand why this happened because i set the detonation to impact so there shlnt be any pre-mature...

HunterICX · 04-07-08, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Ah...well I by default fire 2 torpedo's in a salvo at a Ship.

spread them out so 1 hits the bow section, the other the Mid/stern.

if he floats for too long and the surface is clear I finish it off with the Deck gun

HunterICX

Ya big girlie novice

you should have seen Mr.chris and Me duking it out on the surface last saturday night. we had a blast at a couple of GWX 2.0 mp games

especially the last Mission we played
IID versus Taskforce

HunterICX

Jimbuna · 04-07-08, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Ah...well I by default fire 2 torpedo's in a salvo at a Ship.

spread them out so 1 hits the bow section, the other the Mid/stern.

if he floats for too long and the surface is clear I finish it off with the Deck gun

HunterICX

Ya big girlie novice

you should have seen Mr.chris and Me duking it out on the surface last saturday night. we had a blast at a couple of GWX 2.0 mp games

especially the last Mission we played
IID versus Taskforce

HunterICX

Yeah....he's the chicken king of SH3.....bloody crazy :p

Tessa · 04-08-08, 05:07 AM

As Brag mentions the AoB is paramount to 1 hit sinking a ship as a 90 degree shot isn't optimal. The 45 degree shot is optimal as it give the torpedo the longest time possible under the keel of the ship to detonate. I've managed to do that to the Hood once when it was parked in Gibraltor and was able to move around to get the perfect shot off.

During rough weather you're more likely to get (ime) a one shot kill if you can successfully get the eel to go under the keel. With the rough seas helping to increase the flood rate ships can go down fast or just plain get keelbusted. But to try and use a pure magnetic attack for a convoy during rough seas isn't a very prudent tactic with the amount of misses you'll get caused by the wave height.

04-07-08, 03:43 AM	#1
Hylarion Watch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: France, on the Mediterranean sea Posts: 24 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	I almost always kill medium to big merchant ships with one torpedo (either magnetic under keel, or impact at the bow). Bust most of the time, the small ships are a real pain to down with torpedoes (even with magnetic). This week-end, I followed a coastal merchant for nearly 3 hours after a bow impact hit (15 m/s winds so no gun, and no more torpedoes left) and it never sank, although the bow was more often under than above the water. On the other hand, I've seen several times small merchants break in two parts with 5 to 10 gun shells under the waterline around the middle of the ship... Go figure. __________________ GWX3.0, patched OLC Gold, Torpedo Damage Final 2, Debris & Lifeboats v4, SH3 Commander 3.2 100% realism, no map updates

04-07-08, 05:51 AM	#3
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Ah...well I by default fire 2 torpedo's in a salvo at a Ship. spread them out so 1 hits the bow section, the other the Mid/stern. if he floats for too long and the surface is clear I finish it off with the Deck gun HunterICX __________________

04-07-08, 07:24 AM	#5
Gairith Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Below . . . Posts: 186 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I prefer to salvo only in convoys at the JUCIEY targets. Under normal situations I set one fish to magnetic and one to impact. Fire the magnetic first, open door on the back-up and wait. If it malfunctions I immediately fire the fish set to impact. Generally speaking, torpedoes were very expensive and I do not want to waste them for fear of being keel-hauled by BdU. Each Kaluen has his own preference in sending a ship to the bottom. This is mine. __________________ "You can either watch things happen, make things happen, or wonder what the heck happened." Capt. Phil Harris GWX 2.1 - SH3 Commander 3.2 - OLC Ubermod 2.4.2 - DiD

04-07-08, 09:10 AM	#6
seedoo Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	i don't like firing in salvo. they 2nd torp has a high chance of pre-mature explosion... i alerted a CVE because of this. i don't understand why this happened because i set the detonation to impact so there shlnt be any pre-mature...

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04-07-08, 05:45 AM	#2
seedoo Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	maybe large merchant doesn't have a "break into 2" model? i have seen C3 and C2 in 2 pieces in GWX 2.0 but never any ship that is not in the stock game.

04-08-08, 05:07 AM	#9
Tessa Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CG 96 Posts: 861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	As Brag mentions the AoB is paramount to 1 hit sinking a ship as a 90 degree shot isn't optimal. The 45 degree shot is optimal as it give the torpedo the longest time possible under the keel of the ship to detonate. I've managed to do that to the Hood once when it was parked in Gibraltor and was able to move around to get the perfect shot off. During rough weather you're more likely to get (ime) a one shot kill if you can successfully get the eel to go under the keel. With the rough seas helping to increase the flood rate ships can go down fast or just plain get keelbusted. But to try and use a pure magnetic attack for a convoy during rough seas isn't a very prudent tactic with the amount of misses you'll get caused by the wave height.