Argentina bringing back 1982 war huh?

[Sonarman]

I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

So is the Argentines though too. SO its a toss up again. I don't even see the Mirages that the Argentines used to fly, but the Brits can't put up a carrier anymore either that I know of, so that may not even be an issue. ALl they would have to do is jump on a crusie ship and park troops in the Falklands, and I don't see how the Brits could do much about it? THey don't have a mobile airforce anymore that I know of.

-S

PS. NEver mind - THe Mirages are still flying - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/index.html

Matter of fact, I am sure the UK would have trouble this time around.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

I think you are probably right about losing, our navy is very much diminished and our Merchant Navy to support operations is also much smaller than it was in '82

Still no way.
You have 3 carriers! You can fly more Eurofighters and Tornados to RAF Mount Pleasant.
Your surface fleet and submarine force is much stronger and will own the Argentinians.
Have some faith, the Falklands is probably one of the top scenarios your Admiralty has planned.

[Roads88]

The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:

[Tchocky]

Non-event. Not going to happen.
In the same way the Russo-Japanese War only happened once. When there's no need to distract, there is no distraction.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Roads88

The Royal Navy still has its Subs. So much for the cruise ship.:rotfl:

Try surprise. Cruise ship parks, Army walks off, Argentina conquered. Its already too late by the time the subs respond. And I see the Argentina Air Force has plenty of troop transport capability after the Falklands air defenses are shut down.

-S

[AVGWarhawk]

I remember that action and the Harrier jets doing their thing. I was in 10th grade.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Try surprise. Cruise ship parks, Army walks off, Argentina conquered. Its already too late by the time the subs respond. And I see the Argentina Air Force has plenty of troop transport capability after the Falklands air defenses are shut down.

-S

Unlikely suprise would be a success, that would be a total intelligence failure.
The Brits have Tornados and Marines placed there permanently, we dont know what else. They can fly in more troops and aircraft fast, im sure they have plans for this.

[August]

I'd like to think that given GBs support of our recent military actions we'd support them in a Falklands war redux. This time with a little more than sat imagery.

[Happy Times]

Btw, its the No. 1435 Flight RAF famous from Malta in WWII in Falklands.

"The practice of naming the four-aircraft presence on the islands has also been maintained: they are called Faith, Hope and Charity, after the legendary three Gloster Gladiators that defended Malta, and Desperation. Desperation was added to the three traditional names when Phantom FGR2s entered service in the Falklands and the flight was revived in 1988. Faith, Hope and Charity fly operationally, with Desperation appropriately in reserve. On their retirement in 1992, one of the Phantoms was placed as the gate guardian at Mount Pleasant.

1435 Flight will receive the Eurofighter Typhoon by the end of 2007."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w

RAF F3 Tornados; Charity and Faith heading for the runway at Mount Pleasant Airbase, Falkland Islands.

[iambecomelife]

For those of you interested in flight sims, here is a link to an upcoming sim about the first (and hopefully the only) Falklands War:

http://www.thunder-works.com/forum.htm

It's by a smaller developer who has both British and Argentinians (sp) on the staff. They promise a detailed campaign mode and excellent graphics.





Pics courtesy of thunder-works.com

[Steel_Tomb]

We wouldn't be able to mount an amphibious operation full stop. Since the FA2 Sea Harriers were mothballed we only have ground attack variants of the Harrier which would be useless against even the most modest air threats. We don't have the required strength to mount an operation of any magnitude with forces spread so thinly across the world from the gulf to the med and the atlantic. Mount Pleasant is a gift wrapped present to the argies if they ever invade again. Before they only had the small strip that was bombed by the questionably successful blackbuck raids. If we had just used those small strips with harriers, we would be able to mount a good air defense. At the moment, if that airbase at mount pleasant falls they have a fully operational airbase in which they can bring in air assets like mirages and entandards with their remaining exocets. In 1982 we could get quite close to the islands because these fighters previously had to fly from the mainland and thus had a very short endurance on station making them less of a threat. Now they could possibly sink some major assets before we even get CLOSE to the islands. Unless the Royal Navy is bolstered with a lot of ships i.e. new carriers and amphibious assault vessels I can see the Falklands turning to Argentine hands within the next decade or so.

I recommend reading Commander "Sharkey" Wards book on the Falklands war, its a very good read and give an incite into how lucky we were in 1982. I don't think that luck would help us a second time around, it would seem that politicians don't learn from their mistakes!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Btw, its the No. 1435 Flight RAF famous from Malta in WWII in Falklands.

"The practice of naming the four-aircraft presence on the islands has also been maintained: they are called Faith, Hope and Charity, after the legendary three Gloster Gladiators that defended Malta, and Desperation. Desperation was added to the three traditional names when Phantom FGR2s entered service in the Falklands and the flight was revived in 1988. Faith, Hope and Charity fly operationally, with Desperation appropriately in reserve. On their retirement in 1992, one of the Phantoms was placed as the gate guardian at Mount Pleasant.

1435 Flight will receive the Eurofighter Typhoon by the end of 2007."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w

RAF F3 Tornados; Charity and Faith heading for the runway at Mount Pleasant Airbase, Falkland Islands.

The Tonados would fall vistim to the Mirages pretty quickly, but the EF2000, not so much. The EF2000 should dominate.

-S