[REL] SH4 Scene 8k & 16k plus Atmosphere for SH3.

[3Jane]

Just to get this right, before enabling the GWX v1.0 though JSGME, I select which version I want by selecting one of the 'scene DAT' files from the folders in 'documentation', or are those files just for the non-GWX SHIII. Also, do I deactivate the GWX 16Km Atmosphere before enabling this.

[Carotio]

Sounds good

But curious: did you use the stock SH4 scene file for this new 16km version, or a modified SH4 ROW mod file?
The ROW guys have messed with the SH4 scene file for SH4 as well, and one of these mods makes the player capable to see about 16 to 20 km away.

[Reece]

Hi Jane, yes there are so many options it's a little confusing, first you will have to choose the version you want, 8k or 16k, then make sure the appropriate mod is selected, for example in GWX it is an option to use the 16k version, install this first before installing the SH4 16k Scene mod, or make a combined mod of the 2 overwriting the GWX files. It was easier to do this way rather that a separate install for each option, the uploaded file would have been huge!
Once this has been beta tested and errors fixed I will do a better install version, I already found a problem, the moon that was great in 8k is way too small in 16k version, so I will have to adjust this!
Thanks for the kind words OLC, I probably rushed mine out a bit too quick, I was just excited about getting the 16k version out!

But curious: did you use the stock SH4 scene file for this new 16km version, or a modified SH4 ROW mod file?
The ROW guys have messed with the SH4 scene file for SH4 as well, and one of these mods makes the player capable to see about 16 to 20 km away.

This was done way back with the original 1.4 file, I didn't know that ROW did any mods that altered the Scene.dat file, I thought he just adjusted the visual sensors to see further, could you tell me the name of the mod, I have about a dozen but none of these alter that particular file.

[3Jane]

So, do I install the 16Km GWX v1.0 then install a selected option from one of the scene Dat files in 'documentation', and enable that through JSGME as a seperate mod. And do I just ignore the message in JSGME that files have already been altered by the GWX 16Km atmosphere. Sorry about any confusion on my part.

[Reece]

Sorry about any confusion on my part.

Not at all, I'm confused!
To make it a little easy here is instructions for the 16k option for GWX:
1) Install the GWX 16k atmosphere option.
2) Unpack the contents of the SH4_16k_Scene_for_SH3_v1.rar file to a temp folder.
3) Copy the SH4 16k Atmosphere for GWX v1.1 folder to the Mods folder & enable, JSGME will report a clash just go ahead and install.
4) Now if you want a less reflective version then disable the mod, go to the documentation\Less Reflective folder and copy the Scene.dat file to the mods data folder overwriting the existing Standard version, then re-enable mod.
Hope this helps.

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by Reece

Not at all, I'm confused!
To make it a little easy here is instructions for the 16k option for GWX:
1) Install the GWX 16k atmosphere option.
2) Unpack the contents of the SH4_16k_Scene_for_SH3_v1.rar file to a temp folder.
3) Copy the SH4 16k Atmosphere for GWX v1.1 folder to the Mods folder & enable, JSGME will report a clash just go ahead and install.
4) Now if you want a less reflective version then disable the mod, go to the documentation\Less Reflective folder and copy the Scene.dat file to the mods data folder overwriting the existing Standard version, then re-enable mod.
Hope this helps.

Excellent thank you.

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by 3Jane

Excellent thank you.

Works fine :p

At last the elusive 16K problem has been cracked, well done Reece mate .

[Reece]

At last the elusive 16K problem has been cracked, well done Reece mate .

Aw shucks, it was nothing!
I have fixed the moon size for the next release & working on 2 things that may have OLC stumped as well:
1) The line on the horizon, especially in the evening.
2) Working on, hopefully, a lighter night, so far all 16k versions can be almost black!
Well time for a good nights sleep, lots of work tomorrow!

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Reece

2 things that may have OLC stumped as well:
1) The line on the horizon, especially in the evening.

I guess you don't read my thread mate.
I fixed the 16km horizon already. It's released in my beta. :p
I can tell you how to do it if you like.
Pre-beta screeny taken from the thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=153

[Edward]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I guess you don't read my thread mate.
I fixed the 16km horizon already. It's released in my beta. :p
I can tell you how to do it if you like.

onelifecrisis

Out of curiosity, how do you fix the 16km horizon line?

Thanks,
Edward

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by Reece

This was done way back with the original 1.4 file, I didn't know that ROW did any mods that altered the Scene.dat file, I thought he just adjusted the visual sensors to see further, could you tell me the name of the mod, I have about a dozen but none of these alter that particular file.

I'm pretty sure that this is the one:
ROW ADDON - FOR REFLECTIONS ON THE WATER
look for #10 in the ROW thread

It has scene.dat plus Env dat files

It's the work of leovampire, later reworked by Kriller2

[Hitman]

Great job again Reece

Going through your changes I would say that most are compatible with OLC's own tweaks, as he went mainly about fixing glitters and issues. I hope both mods good points can be combined later

Also, have you tried modifying the values used by Leovampire for his "Living breathing ocean" to see how that improves your scene.dat? In the Sh4 scene.dat that was a major breaktrough that gave new life to the ocean

[thesarunat]

You guys both really rock!
It's a pity my pc is still in for maintenance,
really can't wait to try your mods!
Keep up the great work, I cannot say thanks
enough to all of you modders!

[Reece]

I will search for the reflections on the water, all the ones I have do not touch the scene file, other water mods won't work in SHIII, totally different textures.
Also finding a tweak file for the new version would be a must!