Obama's crazy "end poverty" bill....

[The WosMan]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I couldn't believe McCarthy. That man was like an Inquisitor and not like a politician (although much like a politician since he was only doing this for personal gain).

This country exists on the idea that all men are created equal and all inhabitants are entitled to inalienable rights, something that was totally smeared and nearly erased from American history during the late 1940's and early 1950's. We went from being sensible people to the equivalents of witch hunters in the 16th century. "A commie! Arrest him! Arrest him!"

Patriotism involves you blindly following the government without question. If history has taught us one thing, it's that we should always question what our leaders do. That's what led to the creation of the United States in the first place.

Your knowledge of US history is limited to the crap they serve as educational material today. If you did some actual research into the guy you might walk away with a different conclusion. What is always funny to me is how he seemed to be blamed for being some horrible person when the body that would hold all the hearings and go after people was the House committee on un-american activities and McCarthy was a US Senator and not a member of the House of Representatives. He named people as communists, true....but he was also right. After the Soviet Union fell and many soviet documents were made available in 1993 and also the Venona Intercepts it turns out McCarthy was right on the money.

Unknown to us, between 1943 and 1980 the NSA intercepted and recorded every Soviet communique to and from the United States. In 1995, 1,400 of these files became public information and the people McCarthy went after were known communists on this list. As a matter of fact, of the 10,000 people in the government that were exposed as communists only about 40 were exposed by McCarthy.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I get tired of hearing the same **** everyday. It's always, "Let's just talk this subject to death, and do nothing," with people on the news and in Congress. I'm getting sick of it. Day in and day out, that's all that happens, it seems like.

...that's why they're in the Senate It's just speech club from high school, just over paid .

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Yeh.... i woulda thought itd be much better to spend all that cash on the poverty-stricken folk of the US first...

That's governement intervention in the free market!

If you're poor, it's nobody's fault but yours!

(am I doing it right?)

@ WosMan - I think the nasteist part of that era was the idea that the governement could legislate for "Un-American activities", a definition so vague it expands to "whoever I disagree with".
And so what if someone is a communist?

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

That's governement intervention in the free market!

If you're poor, it's nobody's fault but yours!

(am I doing it right?)

That sounds like the usual script around these parts along with 'commie pinko' yada yada.