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elite_hunter_sh3 02-15-08 11:41 AM

Obama's crazy "end poverty" bill....
 
Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.

The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.

It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.

When word about what appears to be a massive new spending program started getting out, the reaction was immediate.

"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter on a Yahoo news forum. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."

READ ON: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56405

ok, the US is broke.. and this fool wants to give 845 BILLION Dollars to broke countries....
at this rate he isnt even president, and he already wants to drive the US into the ground...hooray :roll:

Tchocky 02-15-08 11:49 AM

Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.

Anyway, this is only legislating what the US has already committed to.

http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/press/07.htm

SUBMAN1 02-15-08 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.

But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :D :p

-S

Tchocky 02-15-08 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.

But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :D :p

Ah crap.

*reads it again*

Still though, US has already pledged to this.

August 02-15-08 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky
Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.

But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :D :p

Ah crap.

*reads it again*

Still though, US has already pledged to this.

Nobody including Congress or the President can pledge the US to something that violates the constitution.

Tchocky 02-15-08 12:04 PM

Does it violate the Constitution?

SUBMAN1 02-15-08 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Does it violate the Constitution?

I don't think it does, and its an admirable goal, but I think it is money better spent at home fixing problems and dealing with critical research before we think of sending it overseas. Sometimes, I think the US does big things overseas to cloud the picture of what is happening at home. Its all one big political game.

-S

sonar732 02-15-08 02:32 PM

I, for one, hate those commercials about the starving kids in underdeveloped nations who need your money to buy them food, clothes, and clean drinking water.

What happened to the poverty in the good 'ol USA?

Letum 02-15-08 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter on a Yahoo news forum. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."

Not really the most insightful and indepth analysis of the global economy is it?

baggygreen 02-15-08 10:48 PM

Yeh.... i woulda thought itd be much better to spend all that cash on the poverty-stricken folk of the US first...

Stealth Hunter 02-15-08 10:55 PM

I get tired of hearing the same **** everyday. It's always, "Let's just talk this subject to death, and do nothing," with people on the news and in Congress. I'm getting sick of it. Day in and day out, that's all that happens, it seems like.

The WosMan 02-15-08 11:11 PM

It absolutely violates the constitution because it would allow for a global tax imposed on US citizens run by the United Nations (and the guy at the UN said he would like it to be a carbon tax...cough cough global warming crowd). This violates the Article I powers of the legislative branch. Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. This means that not only can they not legislate this against us because it does not provide for the United States, it puts the control of this money into the hands of the UN. It completely violates the constitution and our sovereignty. The constitution does not allow the handing over of our authority to global bodies. This bill, the treaty of the sea bill, all of them go against everything my country was founded on. If anything, this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Senator Obama has no business serving as POTUS. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves right now.

Sea Demon 02-15-08 11:26 PM

Good post Wosman. This is only one of many reasons why Obama is unfit to lead. This seems to be more of the same old "let's throw US taxpayer money at em'" with no accountability, and no concern over results. This approach has been tried before, many time in fact. It doesn't work, time for something else. And lets try to do something that doesn't hand control of US taxpayer money over to the corrupt UN.

The WosMan 02-15-08 11:38 PM

True, but I think it goes much further than that. Obama is very mysterious about his agenda. When he gives speeches they are very vague and he talks in circles and everyone thinks it's great. Even though this is parody, it pretty much sums up Obama: http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rus.../obamaspot.asx

The fact is in his short political career he is the most liberal senator in the US Congress. I think the guy has an agenda that goes beyond the normal pandering. Be prepared to learn this new anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpKRd2xQeq8

Stealth Hunter 02-16-08 12:10 AM

Can't say I would want McCain or Clinton in there, either. DEFINITE NO TO HUCKABEE.


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