So then I shot him...

sunvalleyslim · 02-21-08, 01:21 AM

Obviously bernard is on that boat................off with his foot.............

Grayson02sept1980 · 02-21-08, 02:18 AM

those WOs seem to be common!

I have the same problem with mine but he is a very well trained Machinist and TorpedoOfficer (whatever the correct English term is

)

And so I cannot put him into tube1 and shoot him at the merchent he just didn't see

Did I mention it was a Liberty Ship in GWX2 armed with almost as many guns as a hedghog has pins?

Brag · 02-21-08, 07:16 AM

Foot-shooters of the Atlantic, unite!
One dark & foggy night, the hull of my boat was scraping against a tanker when the idot WO said ship spotted and kept repeating it every once in a while.

Konovalov · 02-21-08, 07:33 AM

The only eyes that you can trust are your own.

Certainly not your WO who is Bernard personified.

Elmer Kosterman · 02-21-08, 07:36 AM

I know how you guys feel. I was chasing a lone cargo ship off the east coast of Britain on one of my first patrols right after the war started. It was dark, raining, windy, and foggy, so I was often up on the bridge to help the watch crew, but I wasn't up there all the time.
Then, I happened to be walking throught he command room, when I saw the Chief Engineer hovering tensely over the men manning the bow planes. That's odd. I asked the Watch Officer for a contact report, and he answered all non chalant, "Nearest contact bearing 003°, range 100 meters." He might as well have shouted "Iceberg, right ahead!" I rushed up to the bridge and order a turn just in time to avoid running into the C-2, big as a house. Without the element of surprise, my last two torpedos missed. If only I could've thrown that officer overboard...

Subject · 02-21-08, 08:47 AM

Speaking of realism?

Rubini made a "Stay alert Crew-fix" mod, which was a lifesaver in GWX 1.03. If the blindness and dumbness of the crew hasn't been helped in v2, I'll go find that mod immidiatly. Thanks for the heads up

I haven't observed that behaviour myself yet in GWX 2.0 though - only on first patrol to the States in 42 - but if I do, then...

T.Von Hogan · 02-21-08, 09:58 AM

I don't think Tommies Wo's are any better than ours lol....march 29th 1940 on our 4th mission heading to BE-61 passing thru BE22 at night in foul weather with poor visability.

'Ship spotted short range' i hear as a destroyer passes me within 500 meters in the opposite direction. I ordered the sub to dive and heard the starshell go off just as we were slipping under the waves.

Faamecanic · 02-21-08, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunvalleyslim

Obviously bernard is on that boat................off with his foot.............

I frequently use "Bernard(s)" (note plural as there seems to be no shortage of him) to clean out my torpedo tubes. I stuff him in, slam the hatch, open the door... FWOOOSH....away he goes

NealT · 02-21-08, 11:35 AM

You are being kind. ME? I would not have aimed for the foot!

Foghladh_mhara · 02-21-08, 01:57 PM

Ok so its not just my boat then. I had wondered if having the boat at decks awash somehow affected the watch crews visible range but I guess not. So I was right to shoot him

DrMilton · 02-21-08, 02:01 PM

Why spend the bullet? Just order crash dive before he gets back in.

Sailor Steve · 02-21-08, 02:08 PM

Or replicate the scene in Braveheart:
"Heinz, what's that?"
"Where, Herr Kaleun?"
"Right down there, in the water. You have to lean out a little to see it."
"I still don't see anything, Herr Kaleun."
"Just lean out a little further."
<push>

Iron Budokan · 02-22-08, 12:11 PM

Yeah, it's funny sometimes. I can clearly see a ship way out on the horizon through my binoculars but my WO just stands there scratching his rear end. I ask for a range to the ship...and he says no ship is sighted.

Of course, I understand the ship is actually outside the AIs ability to detect. I also get the same thing with my hydrophone. My sonar guy is really pretty deaf even in the best of circumstances.

02-21-08, 01:21 AM	#1
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Obviously bernard is on that boat................off with his foot............. __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

02-21-08, 02:18 AM	#2
Grayson02sept1980 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany-Bayreuth Posts: 276 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	those WOs seem to be common! I have the same problem with mine but he is a very well trained Machinist and TorpedoOfficer (whatever the correct English term is ) And so I cannot put him into tube1 and shoot him at the merchent he just didn't see Did I mention it was a Liberty Ship in GWX2 armed with almost as many guns as a hedghog has pins? __________________ SH3 Commander GWX 2.0 OLC GUI

02-21-08, 07:16 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Foot-shooters of the Atlantic, unite! One dark & foggy night, the hull of my boat was scraping against a tanker when the idot WO said ship spotted and kept repeating it every once in a while. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-21-08, 07:33 AM	#4
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The only eyes that you can trust are your own. Certainly not your WO who is Bernard personified. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

02-21-08, 08:47 AM	#6
Subject Sparky Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 158 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Speaking of realism? Rubini made a "Stay alert Crew-fix" mod, which was a lifesaver in GWX 1.03. If the blindness and dumbness of the crew hasn't been helped in v2, I'll go find that mod immidiatly. Thanks for the heads up I haven't observed that behaviour myself yet in GWX 2.0 though - only on first patrol to the States in 42 - but if I do, then... __________________

02-21-08, 07:36 AM	#5
Elmer Kosterman A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: München Posts: 71 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I know how you guys feel. I was chasing a lone cargo ship off the east coast of Britain on one of my first patrols right after the war started. It was dark, raining, windy, and foggy, so I was often up on the bridge to help the watch crew, but I wasn't up there all the time. Then, I happened to be walking throught he command room, when I saw the Chief Engineer hovering tensely over the men manning the bow planes. That's odd. I asked the Watch Officer for a contact report, and he answered all non chalant, "Nearest contact bearing 003°, range 100 meters." He might as well have shouted "Iceberg, right ahead!" I rushed up to the bridge and order a turn just in time to avoid running into the C-2, big as a house. Without the element of surprise, my last two torpedos missed. If only I could've thrown that officer overboard...

02-21-08, 09:58 AM	#7
T.Von Hogan Planesman Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 190 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I don't think Tommies Wo's are any better than ours lol....march 29th 1940 on our 4th mission heading to BE-61 passing thru BE22 at night in foul weather with poor visability. 'Ship spotted short range' i hear as a destroyer passes me within 500 meters in the opposite direction. I ordered the sub to dive and heard the starshell go off just as we were slipping under the waves.

02-21-08, 11:35 AM	#9
NealT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 2 Meters Below Jimbuna Posts: 1,060 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	You are being kind. ME? I would not have aimed for the foot!

02-21-08, 01:57 PM	#10
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ok so its not just my boat then. I had wondered if having the boat at decks awash somehow affected the watch crews visible range but I guess not. So I was right to shoot him __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

02-21-08, 02:01 PM	#11
DrMilton Gunner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Right in the middle of it... Posts: 94 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why spend the bullet? Just order crash dive before he gets back in.

02-21-08, 02:08 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Or replicate the scene in Braveheart: "Heinz, what's that?" "Where, Herr Kaleun?" "Right down there, in the water. You have to lean out a little to see it." "I still don't see anything, Herr Kaleun." "Just lean out a little further." <push> __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-22-08, 12:11 PM	#13
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it's funny sometimes. I can clearly see a ship way out on the horizon through my binoculars but my WO just stands there scratching his rear end. I ask for a range to the ship...and he says no ship is sighted. Of course, I understand the ship is actually outside the AIs ability to detect. I also get the same thing with my hydrophone. My sonar guy is really pretty deaf even in the best of circumstances. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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