Blue Ray wins the Hi-Def DVD war

[Onkel Neal]

It's official

[Tchocky]

Argh, the one that sounds proper is beaten by the bad cartoon superhero.

"Oh my stars! If only Blu-Ray were here to save us!"

A light flashes in an underground laboratory. Raymond Blue, nuclear physicist and crimefighter, changes his shirt.

[Boris]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Argh, the one that sounds proper is beaten by the bad cartoon superhero.

"Oh my stars! If only Blu-Ray were here to save us!"

A light flashes in an underground laboratory. Raymond Blue, nuclear physicist and crimefighter, changes his shirt.

Haha, yeah... Blu-Ray sounds pretty gay actually.

But it has more capacity than HD-DVD, so I can't see that it's bad thing that they won the battle.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Boris

Haha, yeah... Blu-Ray sounds pretty gay actually.

But it has more capacity than HD-DVD, so I can't see that it's bad thing that they won the battle.

That used to be the case - HD DVD has 51 GB capacity now. Blu-Ray still has 50 GB.

-S

[STEED]

Your never beat Beta Max. :p

My mate still got his and it has never gone wrong, they don't build them like that anymore.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

That used to be the case - HD DVD has 51 GB capacity now. Blu-Ray still has 50 GB.

-S

Actually TDK has developed 200GB blu-ray discs, although they are 8 layer.

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by STEED

Your never beat Beta Max. :p

My mate still got his and it has never gone wrong, they don't build them like that anymore.

They don't build them point blank! The only reason it still goes is the fact that he has only three tapes in his collection! Just kidding!

The early machines tend to be better built (you get what you pay for!) My Dads first VCR ( A VHS) lasted over 15 years, the next lasted 2!

[bookworm_020]

So the end has come, the music has stopped, and the poor sod whos been stuck with the HD DVD player is trying to find a way out.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/articles/...467142225.html

Thy've got buckleys!

[d@rk51d3]

"There is nothing wrong with the products so we aren't accepting returns from customers,''

"They [customers] understood that there were two competing formats and understood that one of them would probably prevail ... so they made the decision to go with HD DVD.''


-That's gotta sting.

[Herr_Pete]

wont be long till Microsoft have blu ray in there xbox 360's.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by Herr_Pete

wont be long till Microsoft have blu ray in there xbox 360's.

They've already started development on a external/standalone BR drive for the 360. Gonna sting 360 users though as it will cost a fair amount. With the addition of the external drive, a fully tricked out 360 will cost the same as a PS3.

MS will also have to pay Sony for the priviledge. How do them sour grapes taste Gates.:rotfl:

Also, following Toshiba's withdrawl from manufacturing HD DVD, they still maintain that BR will loose the war:

Blu-ray could still lose HD video war: Toshiba
By Matthew Henry

SYDNEY: Toshiba claims that Sony’s victory in the high definition disc format war will be short lived due to the rise of HD digital video downloads over broadband, which the company claims was one of the key reason for abandoning HD DVD.

In a press conference this morning, Toshiba Australia general manager, Mark Whittard, said that while the US film and retail industries’ recent shift to support Blu-ray sealed HD DVD’s fate, other factors played a role in Toshiba’s abandonment of its high definition video disc business.

Whittard claims the penetration of both next generation disc formats is well below expectations while uptake of digital movie download services is accelerating, and could render HD discs redundant.

“We believe technology developments will soon leapfrog high definition discs, whether it be HD DVD or Blu-ray,” he claimed.

“This step is going to be leapfrogged by the next major format – digital content, internet downloads and video on demand.”

Whittard also identified DVD as a formidable competitor to Blu-ray.

According to figures quoted by Toshiba, total sales of HD movie discs reached a paltry $300 million last year compared to sales of over $23 billion for DVD discs.

Whittard claims Blu-ray will find it difficult to replace DVD in the same way DVD comprehensively replaced VHS.

Toshiba sold less than one million HD DVD players worldwide, and while Blu-ray has achieved higher penetration with the PS3, Whittard claims DVD will be “extremely difficult” for Blu-ray to overcome.

“DVD players still sell in their tens of millions worldwide today,” he said.

“DVD upscaling technology means you get near high definition quality, and to most people there is little discernable difference.”

However, while Toshiba is now moving towards a business model which will see it place more emphasis on other HD video delivery platforms, it has not ruled out joining the Blu-ray camp.

“You never say never, but at this stage there are no plans,” he said.

Toshiba's HD DVD players also have the potential for internet connectivity which gives them the potential to accept HD video streaming over ethernet connectivity, which could be utilised by the company in the future.

http://www.current.com.au/2008/02/20...XGEAZOXNF.html

So, a full .mkv HD movie download (@ 720p or 1080p) will hit your bandwidth for about 6-8gb . Hope you all have fast & unlimited bandwidth ISPs.

I don't think we're quite there Tosh but keep dreaming if you want.

EDIT - For those worried about their extensive DVD collection, (I assume HD DVD players do this to) BR players (aka my PS3) can & do upscale SD format DVD's to near HD quality. Now, to the keen eye there is a huge difference between BR quality & upscaled DVD's but to the general user, it's very good quality. So, your DVD collections are safe.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

They don't build them point blank! The only reason it still goes is the fact that he has only three tapes in his collection! Just kidding!

The early machines tend to be better built (you get what you pay for!) My Dads first VCR ( A VHS) lasted over 15 years, the next lasted 2!

He's got a good 50 tapes.

Your right about your second point, my first one went about 7 years no problems just wore it out. The second one went 5 years with problems and the third one went dead in a year with problems.

It's a throw away sociality as the cost is low, I still got two VHS recorders and if they go wrong I will throw them out as there is no point getting them repaired as they now cost £20 to £30.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by danlisa

http://www.current.com.au/2008/02/20...XGEAZOXNF.html

So, a full .mkv HD movie download (@ 720p or 1080p) will hit your bandwidth for about 6-8gb . Hope you all have fast & unlimited bandwidth ISPs.

I don't think we're quite there Tosh but keep dreaming if you want.

EDIT - For those worried about their extensive DVD collection, (I assume HD DVD players do this to) BR players (aka my PS3) can & do upscale SD format DVD's to near HD quality. Now, to the keen eye there is a huge difference between BR quality & upscaled DVD's but to the general user, it's very good quality. So, your DVD collections are safe.

I disagree - We are there. I'm changing over my broadband to FIOS and will have 30 MBit/sec download as of next month. That would get me your 6 GB file in less than 30 minutes - probably shorter than to go rent it at the store.

I also have friends that are bypassing HD DVD and Blu Ray alltogether, and either DL all their content, or have Comcast send it to them.

-S

[danlisa]

Until that kind of connection is the basic norm in the major areas of the world, we are nowhere near this kind of HD download content.

This kind of infrastructure and net speed needs to be nationwide before this service takes the lead. For example, the majority of the UK doesn't even have cable connections installed, what chance do they have getting fibre optics.

However, I will concede that downloadable HD services will spur the industry on to install & develop cable/optical net services.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Until that kind of connection is the basic norm in the major areas of the world, we are nowhere near this kind of HD download content.

This kind of infrastructure and net speed needs to be nationwide before this service takes the lead. For example, the majority of the UK doesn't even have cable connections installed, what chance do they have getting fibre optics.

However, I will concede that downloadable HD services will spur the industry on to install & develop cable/optical net services.

Well it sounds like the UK is lagging! You guys need to catch up. FIOS is nationwide over here, and the phone companies are pushing it hard as a competitor to cable.

The phone companies are trying to compete on every level with cable, and plan to send everything from internet traffic, to TV through FIOS.

I expect a similar assualt on the cable companies to happen in the UK in the near future. To hear you talk though, I'd have to say the UK even lags behind all other European nations.

-S

PS. In case you care, FIOS is probably what you already think it is - It is fiber optic.

PPS. Some info - http://www22.verizon.com/content/con...s+vs+cable.htm

PPPS. I was under the impression that most European nations were beyond the US in broadband speed.

PPPPS. Here is the TV channel line-up - kind of shows you that they have stadard cable in their sights - http://www22.verizon.com/content/fio...nel+lineup.htm