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Old 02-07-08, 06:02 PM   #1
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Bring a big appetite if ya go duck shootin'
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Old 02-07-08, 06:24 PM   #2
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I guess that was developed out of the Saiga 12K? Or atleast the idea behind it... In comparision to the Saiga the recoil looks really manageable.
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Old 02-07-08, 06:46 PM   #3
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I guess that was developed out of the Saiga 12K? Or atleast the idea behind it... In comparision to the Saiga the recoil looks really manageable.
Totally manageable - way better than a Street sweeper too.

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Old 02-07-08, 08:18 PM   #4
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Totally manageable - way better than a Street sweeper too.
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Old 02-07-08, 11:23 PM   #5
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It certainly shows alot of influence of the striker 12 and Armsel striker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armsel_Striker

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Bring a big appetite if ya go duck shootin'
You can only have a maximum of 3 shells in the magazine during fowl hunting.....so that's a no go there bud.

As for some of the terms and/or phrases I have a problem with that I feel the need to elaborate on:

Recoil, or the lack of it, doesn't make the firearm more accurate. Lack of or less recoil in the firearm allows for faster follow-up shots.

Assault is a behavior, not a device (ie. Assault rifle).

Any shotgun can fire lethal rounds, just because a shotgun was designed for the military from the ground up does NOT make it more or less lethal than any other shotgun in existence (who the hell wrote the script for the damn story here?).
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Old 02-08-08, 07:03 AM   #6
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Recoil, or the lack of it, doesn't make the firearm more accurate. Lack of or less recoil in the firearm allows for faster follow-up shots.
Which, in turn, leads to more accurate shots.
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Old 02-08-08, 07:07 AM   #7
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lol
This episode of Future Weapons was showing on discovery 1 this morning. Interesting stuff.
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Old 02-08-08, 07:26 AM   #8
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Almost as deadly as this sniper rifle. If you hit the target, the round comes back to you!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=laSRfJ8WgwQ
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Old 02-08-08, 07:42 AM   #9
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^

twat! "No more iron"
What were they doing? Shooting at a flat iron plate at a couple of hundred yards?
Fools.

These ranges are more like it:
http://www.fcsa.co.uk/images/radnor/...-distances.JPG
http://www.fcsa.co.uk/images/radnor/...gets1000y1.JPG

From the (would you believe it?) '50. Cal Shooters Association UK'. When I first saw the site I was amazed that our government would allow peeps to play with such monsters. Unlike you guys in america, we generally don't have the luxury of being able to play with some of the firearms 'toys' you enjoy.
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Old 02-08-08, 08:25 AM   #10
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The downside to a rotary magazine full-auto shotgun (for military use anyway), IMO, is the magazine itself though. It's freakin' huge, and looks like it takes a fair bit of time to reload. It's way too bulky to drape a bunch of pre-loaded spare magazines over your body, so your left with using bandoliers or some such, and having to stop and re-fill the magazine after your 20 or 32 rounds are spent. Not a weapon I'd want to be carrying into a firefight.
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Almost as deadly as this sniper rifle. If you hit the target, the round comes back to you!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=laSRfJ8WgwQ
That kinda reminds me of these neigbors I used to have they were in a group called On Target for Christ. They killed deer and gave to the hungary. Except most of the time they didn't hunt they just fired military weapons they had aquired. The got fined one time for fireing a Browning 30 cal. machine gun in one of the guys back yards.
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Old 02-08-08, 09:55 PM   #12
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That video of the sniper rifle is SICK!!!!
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Recoil, or the lack of it, doesn't make the firearm more accurate. Lack of or less recoil in the firearm allows for faster follow-up shots.
Which, in turn, leads to more accurate shots.
Faster follow-up shots means more rounds into the targets' direction in a shorter time span, not more accuracy.

If I fired a rifle or shotgun that had no recoil whatsoever, I can still flinch or have a hard time aiming the weapon because of weight and/or fatigue from carrying it around. Also, accuracy depends equally on both the shooters' ability to handle the firearm and the firearms' designed accuracy.

An example would be the Remington 870 and a Browning Citori. Both shotguns are capable of perfect accuracy in trap shooting, but their effectiveness depends on the type of ammunition being fired and the ability of the handlers' use of the firearm.
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Old 02-10-08, 06:02 AM   #14
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As for the sniper rifle vid. It's best to tilt the plate toward the shooter so impacting rounds will angle downward into the ground when striking the target. Hopefully this guy will learn and remember that lesson.
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Old 02-10-08, 08:09 AM   #15
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...but their effectiveness depends on the type of ammunition being fired and the ability of the handlers' use of the firearm.
Point taken...which coinsides with my comment about the recoil. If the shooter can't handle the gun; whether it be due to flinching, recoil, or what not, his accuracy will suffer.
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