Worlds deadliest shotgun

sonar732 · 02-07-08, 01:55 PM

SWEEEET!

Ishmael · 02-07-08, 02:21 PM

I saw this and the ones they had mounted on the top of the BW APC. My first thought on countermeasures were the following:

1 or 2 RPG rounds to take out the shotgun mount and EFPs mounted at 45 degree angles to hit the sloped sides at a perpendicular angle.

Dowly · 02-07-08, 02:29 PM

Wohoo! Awesome! More weapons to end lives!

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-07-08, 02:38 PM

The Taliban just got a new laxative :P

CCIP · 02-07-08, 02:52 PM

HOLY MOTHER OF

Why I demand someone mod this one into STALKER!

SUBMAN1 · 02-07-08, 04:14 PM

The recoil looks really manageable. I've never shot anythign like that however. Probably because this would be classified as a destructive device, and I don't know anyone with a destructive class license.

-S

Brag · 02-07-08, 06:02 PM

Bring a big appetite if ya go duck shootin'

VipertheSniper · 02-07-08, 06:24 PM

I guess that was developed out of the Saiga 12K? Or atleast the idea behind it... In comparision to the Saiga the recoil looks really manageable.

Yahoshua · 02-07-08, 11:23 PM

It certainly shows alot of influence of the striker 12 and Armsel striker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armsel_Striker

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Originally Posted by Brag

Bring a big appetite if ya go duck shootin'

You can only have a maximum of 3 shells in the magazine during fowl hunting.....so that's a no go there bud.

As for some of the terms and/or phrases I have a problem with that I feel the need to elaborate on:

Recoil, or the lack of it, doesn't make the firearm more accurate. Lack of or less recoil in the firearm allows for faster follow-up shots.

Assault is a behavior, not a device (ie. Assault rifle).

Any shotgun can fire lethal rounds, just because a shotgun was designed for the military from the ground up does NOT make it more or less lethal than any other shotgun in existence (who the hell wrote the script for the damn story here?).

sonar732 · 02-07-08, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I saw this and the ones they had mounted on the top of the BW APC. My first thought on countermeasures were the following:

1 or 2 RPG rounds to take out the shotgun mount and EFPs mounted at 45 degree angles to hit the sloped sides at a perpendicular angle.

Leave it to Ishmael to come up with countermeasures to our weapons.

Ishmael · 02-08-08, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sonar732

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I saw this and the ones they had mounted on the top of the BW APC. My first thought on countermeasures were the following:

1 or 2 RPG rounds to take out the shotgun mount and EFPs mounted at 45 degree angles to hit the sloped sides at a perpendicular angle.

Leave it to Ishmael to come up with countermeasures to our weapons.

But it's not one of "our" weapns. It was designed for and used by a private mercenary organization with no ties nor alliegance to either Constitution or government. They'll use them for whoever pays them the most money against the "Inevitable Consequence of Progress" of people unable to resist.

sonar732 · 02-08-08, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

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Originally Posted by sonar732

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

I saw this and the ones they had mounted on the top of the BW APC. My first thought on countermeasures were the following:

1 or 2 RPG rounds to take out the shotgun mount and EFPs mounted at 45 degree angles to hit the sloped sides at a perpendicular angle.

Leave it to Ishmael to come up with countermeasures to our weapons.

But it's not one of "our" weapns. It was designed for and used by a private mercenary organization with no ties nor alliegance to either Constitution or government. They'll use them for whoever pays them the most money against the "Inevitable Consequence of Progress" of people unable to resist.

You and your left-wing spin crack me up...you obviously have such issues with the contracting companies in Iraq that you can't see the history of the AA 12. The history of this weapon is plainly before Iraq...wait...you'll state that in 1972, we had an interest in giving this weapon plans to our contractors knowing that in the 35 years we'll be in Iraq. They spent another 18 years refinning the weapon.

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Originally Posted by military.com

Beyond our military are elements of Homeland Security that have expressed great interest in the AA-12, such as or the guarding of our nuclear facilities. Foreign governments who are allies of the U.S., such as the Philippines, are also very interested, but in addition to them the AA-12 will be available only to the military and agencies of our Federal Government.

Defense Review Article with so many video links you can't shake a stick at...not to mention the continued interest by the US Marine Corps!

It's all a conspiracy!!!!!!

STEED · 02-08-08, 01:19 PM

Now that is a gun I can use when my country breaks down.

Ishmael · 02-08-08, 02:04 PM

The weapon I was referring to was the BW APC. But the key question is whether one of those would stop in inbound cruise "model rocket". Besides, if it does get so desperate that I have to give up my vow of non-violence, my target won't be the security contractors but the homes of their bosses and employers.

02-07-08, 02:38 PM	#4
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	The Taliban just got a new laxative :P __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

02-07-08, 02:52 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	HOLY MOTHER OF Why I demand someone mod this one into STALKER! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-07-08, 04:14 PM	#6
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The recoil looks really manageable. I've never shot anythign like that however. Probably because this would be classified as a destructive device, and I don't know anyone with a destructive class license. -S __________________

02-07-08, 06:02 PM	#7
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02-08-08, 01:19 PM	#13
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Now that is a gun I can use when my country breaks down. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-07-08, 01:55 PM	#1
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	SWEEEET!

02-07-08, 02:21 PM	#2
Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	I saw this and the ones they had mounted on the top of the BW APC. My first thought on countermeasures were the following: 1 or 2 RPG rounds to take out the shotgun mount and EFPs mounted at 45 degree angles to hit the sloped sides at a perpendicular angle.

02-07-08, 02:29 PM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Wohoo! Awesome! More weapons to end lives!

02-07-08, 06:24 PM	#8
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,070 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I guess that was developed out of the Saiga 12K? Or atleast the idea behind it... In comparision to the Saiga the recoil looks really manageable.

02-08-08, 02:04 PM	#14
Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	The weapon I was referring to was the BW APC. But the key question is whether one of those would stop in inbound cruise "model rocket". Besides, if it does get so desperate that I have to give up my vow of non-violence, my target won't be the security contractors but the homes of their bosses and employers.

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