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Old 10-23-07, 10:47 AM   #1
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Obviously this is not a pleasant situation to be in, and both my missus and myself have been in it too in the past. But what is compensatory, is the knowledge that if the company was trying to save money in letting you go, it's the beginning of a downward spiral for them, and their situation will not be improved by the loss of you or your colleague, both of whom will take all their experience out of the door too when they go.

Typically what will happen is that the company will realise that they really did need two people, and so will attempt to get someone in for a lot less money. And when they pay peanuts, they will of course get a monkey. What they really should address is the management who failed in getting enough work for both you and your colleague in the first place, but of course it was their decision, so that never happens, still, rest assured that their time will come.

My wife Max read this over my shoulder and concurred with me that frankly, if you are with a company like that, apart from the pain in the ass of switching jobs and a relatively short period of difficulty while that happens, you're better off out of there.

'Sit back and laugh your ass off when they all lose their jobs in three months time, like I did!' - that was a quote from my wife. Who now does work she used to do at that company, but as freelancer, and gets paid twice as much for doing it in half the time:rotfl:

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Old 10-23-07, 01:48 PM   #2
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Thanks for those encouraging words, all.
Missy is back home and propped up amongst loads of pillows on the sofa, like some latter day elder duchess. When I have a minute to spare from running about looking after her, I shall fill you in on the work things as it stands after tomorrow.
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Old 10-23-07, 03:49 PM   #3
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@Jumpy .. redundancy always looks better on your C.V.
@Kapitan .. this is a situation I think you will understand as we are in similar careers LOL
The 'Mob' I'm working for have 2 wage structures .. the good one includes bonus and a 6 month sickness scheme with no loss of earnings
the bad one .. no bonus and no sick pay [or any pay] for the first 3 days then you have to submit a Doctor's note then keep your fingers crossed for a Month.
How did this happen ?
In house lost the contract to Onyx which had the good stuff then after X amount of years, lost the Contract [for whatever reason put will probably involve money] back to In house. A 'Governing Body' stipulated that In house had to keep on the men with the good stuff they had with Onyx which they agreed to; what came after took or left the other structure. I am one of these and at the moment, I'm working on a Month to Month Contract = makes for many a sleepless night !
As a result of this 2 tier system, you have guys [sorry Pen] who take a sickie anytime they like with no loss of earnings and others limping along and falling asleep in the Cab due to working 6-2, 10 days on a trot on flat rate to get a half decent salary.
Just a little 'food for thought'.
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Old 10-23-07, 03:59 PM   #4
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Sad news all round people

To the Brits here....if contracts are lost to tender and transferance of employees results...ask about TUPE (transfer of personal undertakings)....it is a legal requirement now under the Employment Relations Act
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Old 10-23-07, 04:13 PM   #5
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By all accounts, this was implemented and accepted by this Mob and conditions and contracts were accepted by them. It's the people that came after that are treated like second rate citizens with 'Victorian' working practises and having no leg to stand on and no 'body' to turn to that makes my blood boil !
Personally, I have a choice, walk out but that wouldn't look too good on the C.V. or bust my A**E working month to month.
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Old 10-23-07, 04:18 PM   #6
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It's often referred to as 'withering on the vine' (let the old contracts die as people leave and re-engage new staff on revised contracts).
The workforce should organise themselves and join a Trade Union :hmm:
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GMB [Ha Ha]

Maggie took all the power away from the Unions and Labour came to power, looked at the Union situation and decided that 'it it isn't broke, don't fix it'
No way were they going to give power back to the Unions even though Labour supposed to represent the working man.
Anyway, never a dull moment with this job .. encountered a rat for the first time this morning and ended up calling on some druggies for their used needles on the afternoon.
Apparently, this Mob runs a service where a druggie can ring up and have their needles removed, prevents them getting thrown out and discarded where they could be available to children etc. Guy No.2 drew the short straw and had to knock on the door and wait for them to answer and hand them over.
Think I'll start a Blog.
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