[TEC] Ship skinning...

tater · 08-24-07, 09:52 AM

It's not just that they LOOK awful, the merchant skin I looked at was so horribly organized that reskinning Nagara is impossible.

I guess I need to look at others.

I wanted to try my hand at skinning, but unlike any aircraft I've messed with to skin (Il-2) they used the same texture for so much of the ship... ugh.

tater

tater · 08-24-07, 01:32 PM

Am I right in thinking that with such nightmarish, awful skin templates the only way to do this will be to export the model, and rebuild it with a proper texture map?

tater

tater · 08-24-07, 03:26 PM

Some are easier than others, Mwhahaha.

tater

tater · 08-25-07, 01:01 PM

There is the T file, and then there is the O file.

The O file seems to have shapes to represent the various hull areas to be skinned on it, but it's largely transparent. Oddly, some of it lines up with the T layer, while other areas clearly cannot since they cross things.

Anyway, if you look at Mutsuki (or Fubuki, can't recall) the hulls are plain, yet in game they have dazzle paint. Turns out that's on the O layer... The merchants have very much more complicated O layers and I don't see anything like the hull.

Clearly I can just work on the T at some level, but they use blocks over and over instead of having a good separation of areas.

tater

FooFighters · 08-25-07, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

There is the T file, and then there is the O file.

The O file seems to have shapes to represent the various hull areas to be skinned on it, but it's largely transparent. Oddly, some of it lines up with the T layer, while other areas clearly cannot since they cross things.

Anyway, if you look at Mutsuki (or Fubuki, can't recall) the hulls are plain, yet in game they have dazzle paint. Turns out that's on the O layer... The merchants have very much more complicated O layers and I don't see anything like the hull.

Clearly I can just work on the T at some level, but they use blocks over and over instead of having a good separation of areas.

tater

The O's are a big pain in the ass..
I had some big fights with them to get the skin to look nice and clean

Digital_Trucker · 08-25-07, 01:45 PM

[Slightly off color and possibly obscure comment]

They have the Ts paired with the wrong thing. Ts are supposed to be paired with As.

[/Slightly off color and possibly obscure comment]

Seriously, it sounds like skinning these beasts could be quite a

experience. Thanks for the heads-up, I, too, was thinking about giving it a whirl.

tater · 08-25-07, 02:39 PM

O files show us where things go, I made a white T file for nagara, then painted some of the forms colors (labeled for up/down/mirror) and now I know what is what.

tater

08-25-07, 01:45 PM	#6
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	[Slightly off color and possibly obscure comment] They have the Ts paired with the wrong thing. Ts are supposed to be paired with As. [/Slightly off color and possibly obscure comment] Seriously, it sounds like skinning these beasts could be quite a experience. Thanks for the heads-up, I, too, was thinking about giving it a whirl. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

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08-24-07, 09:52 AM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It's not just that they LOOK awful, the merchant skin I looked at was so horribly organized that reskinning Nagara is impossible. I guess I need to look at others. I wanted to try my hand at skinning, but unlike any aircraft I've messed with to skin (Il-2) they used the same texture for so much of the ship... ugh. tater

08-24-07, 01:32 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Am I right in thinking that with such nightmarish, awful skin templates the only way to do this will be to export the model, and rebuild it with a proper texture map? tater

08-24-07, 03:26 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Some are easier than others, Mwhahaha. tater

08-25-07, 01:01 PM	#4
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	There is the T file, and then there is the O file. The O file seems to have shapes to represent the various hull areas to be skinned on it, but it's largely transparent. Oddly, some of it lines up with the T layer, while other areas clearly cannot since they cross things. Anyway, if you look at Mutsuki (or Fubuki, can't recall) the hulls are plain, yet in game they have dazzle paint. Turns out that's on the O layer... The merchants have very much more complicated O layers and I don't see anything like the hull. Clearly I can just work on the T at some level, but they use blocks over and over instead of having a good separation of areas. tater

08-25-07, 02:39 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	O files show us where things go, I made a white T file for nagara, then painted some of the forms colors (labeled for up/down/mirror) and now I know what is what. tater