An America foreign legion???

HMCS · 08-02-07, 02:14 PM

Isn't that what Blackwater is?

Chock · 08-02-07, 02:20 PM

They already have one, it's called the Ministry of Defence:rotfl:

Chock

Iron Budokan · 08-02-07, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HMCS

Isn't that what Blackwater is?

Lol, you beat me to it. :rotfl:

Polak · 08-02-07, 02:59 PM

If think that the US MoD would benefit alot finantially from it, it's much cheaper to run a legion than to hire people from companies like Blackwater.

P_Funk · 08-02-07, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak

If think that the US MoD would benefit alot finantially from it, it's much cheaper to run a legion than to hire people from companies like Blackwater.

Thats because soldiers always get ripped off.:p

"Thanks for almost dying for us and scarring your innocence forever. btw your GI Pension recently discovered that you aren't covered for your procedure."

"I haven't been diagnosed yet"

"Right... well good luck with that. You got insurance?"

Polak · 08-02-07, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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Originally Posted by Polak

If think that the US MoD would benefit alot finantially from it, it's much cheaper to run a legion than to hire people from companies like Blackwater.

Thats because soldiers always get ripped off.:p

"Thanks for almost dying for us and scarring your innocence forever. btw your GI Pension recently discovered that you aren't covered for your procedure."

"I haven't been diagnosed yet"

"Right... well good luck with that. You got insurance?"

I know the pain.

Seriously, I only see benefits in a legion.
Economical benefits, no news about dead American soldiers in the news, etc.

P_Funk · 08-02-07, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak

I know the pain.

Seriously, I only see benefits in a legion.
Economical benefits, no news about dead American soldiers in the news, etc.

How about outside of the notice of pesky reporters and those bloody "oversight" twats? The only way they'd embed a reporter with a Foreign Legion is in a rock face with a sabot round.

Heibges · 08-02-07, 05:36 PM

Colonel Hackworth brought forward that idea 25 years ago. I hate to see these talking heads stealing his ideas.

The Regular Army is never going to go for it because your are playing in their pond their toes. The absolutely last thing they want is another part of the Army.

SUBMAN1 · 08-02-07, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

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Originally Posted by Polak

I know the pain.

Seriously, I only see benefits in a legion.
Economical benefits, no news about dead American soldiers in the news, etc.

How about outside of the notice of pesky reporters and those bloody "oversight" twats? The only way they'd embed a reporter with a Foreign Legion is in a rock face with a sabot round.

For the second time in this thread - isn't that what Blackwater Mercs are?

-S

bradclark1 · 08-02-07, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak

If think that the US MoD would benefit alot finantially from it, it's much cheaper to run a legion than to hire people from companies like Blackwater.

Blackwater does not come out of the Department of Defence budget. Our military manpower is capped by law. These security outfits or whatever you want to call them is therefore a freebie. The military don't have to guard whatever and can use those people on the line. It's all a paper shuffle.

Polak · 08-02-07, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

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Originally Posted by Polak

If think that the US MoD would benefit alot finantially from it, it's much cheaper to run a legion than to hire people from companies like Blackwater.

Blackwater does not come out of the Department of Defence budget. Our military manpower is capped by law. These security outfits or whatever you want to call them is therefore a freebie. The military don't have to guard whatever and can use those people on the line. It's all a paper shuffle.

You are of course right, but what I ment was that in the end, the money comes from the same source. The money spent on Blackwater or simillar companies, could be used by the MoD for a foreign legion.

bradclark1 · 08-02-07, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Polak

You are of course right, but what I ment was that in the end, the money comes from the same source. The money spent on Blackwater or simillar companies, could be used by the MoD for a foreign legion.

The money does not come from the same place. Also what benefit is there in an Legion? There isn't any. Our military is all volunteer. Their are a lot of foreigners in the U.S. military, it's is a fast track to citizenship.The budget for Blackwater I suspect (I don't know) comes from the Department of State. The simple answer is to just enlarge the military which is supposed to happen but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.

Polak · 08-03-07, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

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Originally Posted by Polak

You are of course right, but what I ment was that in the end, the money comes from the same source. The money spent on Blackwater or simillar companies, could be used by the MoD for a foreign legion.

The money does not come from the same place. Also what benefit is there in an Legion? There isn't any. Our military is all volunteer. Their are a lot of foreigners in the U.S. military, it's is a fast track to citizenship.The budget for Blackwater I suspect (I don't know) comes from the Department of State. The simple answer is to just enlarge the military which is supposed to happen but I haven't heard anything about it in a while.

If I remember correctly, it's the taxpayers money that pay for the military and Blackwaters presence in Iraq.

If the legion would be modeled on the french foreign legion, I would only see benefits. The biggest atribute of the FFL is that the legionaires are more expendable than regular french soldiers, meaning french citizens. You rarley hear in the news when legionaires get KIA since they are not french citizens.

HMCS · 08-03-07, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

Blackwater does not come out of the Department of Defence budget. Our military manpower is capped by law. These security outfits or whatever you want to call them is therefore a freebie.

A freebie paid for by the American taxpayer.

And Blackwater types are not subject to military law, and can kill with impunity.

If I was an Iraqi, I'd be making bombs, too.

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Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Colonel Hackworth brought forward that idea 25 years ago. I hate to see these talking heads stealing his ideas. The Regular Army is never going to go for it because your are playing in their pond their toes. The absolutely last thing they want is another part of the Army. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

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