Permanent good weather in a mission

TarJak · 07-29-07, 08:43 PM

I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202

I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.

ahaseurus2000 · 07-29-07, 09:26 PM

Weather data is contained in the campaign_???.mis files in the campaign folder.

it goes something like this:

...
fog=?
fograndom=?
clouds=?
cloudsrandom=?
rain=?
rainrandom=?
wind=?
winddirection=?
windrandom=?
...
WeatherInterval=7?

set all the values to "0" and you'll have sunny, calm seas with high visibility. I prefer fog set to medium (2) which allows me to sneak up on convoys while surfaced.

WeatherInterval sets how many hours must pass before the weather can change. I think the highest setting is "72", meaning three days.

I find weather still changes even with all the randoms set to zero. SH3Weather doesn't alter the randoms.

finally return to port before changing these files. and have the same settings in each file to lower the risk of errors.

Deputy · 07-29-07, 10:40 PM

TarJak: That's the program I tried and it just gave me calm weather when leaving port. But thanks anyway

ahaseurus2000: Ahhhhhh...now we are talking!!!!

Thanks a ton for that info. I like to do a lot of surface kills early in the war and nasty weather sure puts the crimp on them. I appreciate that info!!!!

Dep

SmokinTep · 07-30-07, 09:50 AM

I just finished a patrol which started out calm, no wind. Made it all the way to my patrol area, off of Africa, still calm. Did a save, came back and still had calm seas, usually it starts out with bad weather from a save. Spent 20 days at sea and only had a couple of days of bad weather.

GWX.........

Deputy · 07-30-07, 12:42 PM

Well I did the file modification as described by ahaseurus2000 and it worked exactly as he described it. Water was smooth as silk. I managed to get some excellent kills off the southeast coast of England using both torps and deck gun. Even blasted some aircraft out of the sky!! After 72 hours and on my way back to home port the weather turned back to stormy. I went back into the three Campaign_ LND, RND, and SCR files and it looks like nothing was changed. They are still at the same setting I modified them to...

[Mission]
Title=
MissionType=0
MissionDataType=1
Year=1939
Month=1
Day=1
Hour=12
Minute=0
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=0
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=72
SeaType=0
Briefing=

I changed all 3 files to read exactly the same settings. I wonder what the overriding file is that changes things after 72 hours??? Perhaps I will try a higher number on the WeatherRndInterval to see if that has any effect.

Dep

Kaleun Hals · 07-30-07, 02:03 PM

Awww...what's wrong with doing the old fashioned way and just taking on whatever weather comes your way...like real life. Those boys sixty years ago couldn't change the weather. The North Atlantic has pretty crap weather most of the time anyway.

Think of it as an added challenge.

Deputy · 07-30-07, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleun Hals

Awww...what's wrong with doing the old fashioned way and just taking on whatever weather comes your way...like real life. Those boys sixty years ago couldn't change the weather. The North Atlantic has pretty crap weather most of the time anyway.

Think of it as an added challenge.

That would be fine once I get some experience under my belt. Plus in the early years more kills were made with deck guns than torps. It seems like EVERY time I go out I hit crummy weather after a day or two no matter what part of the world I'm in. I don't think the whole world was under one massive, permanent crummy weather front

namika · 08-01-07, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202

I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.

I recommend this mod, I always use it with SHIII Commander.

Deputy · 08-01-07, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namika

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202

I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.

I recommend this mod, I always use it with SHIII Commander.

I tried that mod and it doesn't allow permanent change to calm weather.

namika · 08-01-07, 11:56 AM

Ah looks like I misread something then.

Well in my new career first 3 mission went on with fully calm weather. Not becouse the mod made it possible, I was just lucky. But the weather mod really makes the weather changing, not just having full storms all the time.

The British weather is mostly really awful and I heard the northern Atlantic isn't much better. I know it can be frustrating, but I got used to it. ^^

Deputy · 08-01-07, 01:43 PM

I understand about the North Atlantic being bad weather and rough water, but SH3 seems to apply that weather to the whole world.

drussxx · 08-01-07, 02:42 PM

i am fed up with having 7 days of heavy fog . i will try the weather mod. mainly to reduce that effect.

Elmo · 08-02-07, 08:58 AM

I want to be sure about one thing. Saving and reloading during a patrol causes the weather to change more frequently, or less?

Gezoes · 08-02-07, 09:31 AM

I think I read somewhere that after loading a savegame, the weather doesn't change for 48 hours...

Elmo · 08-03-07, 09:20 AM

Suppose you wanted the weather to change as frequently as possible. How would you do it?

07-29-07, 09:26 PM	#2
ahaseurus2000 Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Weather data is contained in the campaign_???.mis files in the campaign folder. it goes something like this: ... fog=? fograndom=? clouds=? cloudsrandom=? rain=? rainrandom=? wind=? winddirection=? windrandom=? ... WeatherInterval=7? set all the values to "0" and you'll have sunny, calm seas with high visibility. I prefer fog set to medium (2) which allows me to sneak up on convoys while surfaced. WeatherInterval sets how many hours must pass before the weather can change. I think the highest setting is "72", meaning three days. I find weather still changes even with all the randoms set to zero. SH3Weather doesn't alter the randoms. finally return to port before changing these files. and have the same settings in each file to lower the risk of errors. __________________ ------------------------------ ASUS, P4 3.0 Ghz, 1GB Memory, Nvidia Geforce 4000 MX. SH3 GWX v2.0, IL-2 Ultimate Collection v4.04m

07-30-07, 02:03 PM	#6
Kaleun Hals Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hull, UK. Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Awww...what's wrong with doing the old fashioned way and just taking on whatever weather comes your way...like real life. Those boys sixty years ago couldn't change the weather. The North Atlantic has pretty crap weather most of the time anyway. Think of it as an added challenge. __________________ "...U-boat special cocktail, want some ?"

08-01-07, 02:42 PM	#12
drussxx Seaman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: wales uk Posts: 32 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	i am fed up with having 7 days of heavy fog . i will try the weather mod. mainly to reduce that effect. __________________

08-02-07, 09:31 AM	#14
Gezoes XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 435 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I think I read somewhere that after loading a savegame, the weather doesn't change for 48 hours... __________________ If I wasn't a little mad, I'd go mad.

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07-29-07, 08:43 PM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I think it is the one I was talking about. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=103202 I don't use any weather mods and I don't seem to have too many problems with the weather changing. If the weather doesn't change I resist saving and restarting for a while until it does unless absolutely necessary.

07-29-07, 10:40 PM	#3
Deputy Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 344 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	TarJak: That's the program I tried and it just gave me calm weather when leaving port. But thanks anyway ahaseurus2000: Ahhhhhh...now we are talking!!!! Thanks a ton for that info. I like to do a lot of surface kills early in the war and nasty weather sure puts the crimp on them. I appreciate that info!!!! Dep

07-30-07, 09:50 AM	#4
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just finished a patrol which started out calm, no wind. Made it all the way to my patrol area, off of Africa, still calm. Did a save, came back and still had calm seas, usually it starts out with bad weather from a save. Spent 20 days at sea and only had a couple of days of bad weather. GWX.........

07-30-07, 12:42 PM	#5
Deputy Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 344 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Well I did the file modification as described by ahaseurus2000 and it worked exactly as he described it. Water was smooth as silk. I managed to get some excellent kills off the southeast coast of England using both torps and deck gun. Even blasted some aircraft out of the sky!! After 72 hours and on my way back to home port the weather turned back to stormy. I went back into the three Campaign_ LND, RND, and SCR files and it looks like nothing was changed. They are still at the same setting I modified them to... [Mission] Title= MissionType=0 MissionDataType=1 Year=1939 Month=1 Day=1 Hour=12 Minute=0 Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=0 CloudsRand=0 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=0 WindRand=0 WeatherRndInterval=72 SeaType=0 Briefing= I changed all 3 files to read exactly the same settings. I wonder what the overriding file is that changes things after 72 hours??? Perhaps I will try a higher number on the WeatherRndInterval to see if that has any effect. Dep

08-01-07, 11:56 AM	#10
namika Mate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hungary, Szeged Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ah looks like I misread something then. Well in my new career first 3 mission went on with fully calm weather. Not becouse the mod made it possible, I was just lucky. But the weather mod really makes the weather changing, not just having full storms all the time. The British weather is mostly really awful and I heard the northern Atlantic isn't much better. I know it can be frustrating, but I got used to it. ^^

08-01-07, 01:43 PM	#11
Deputy Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 344 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I understand about the North Atlantic being bad weather and rough water, but SH3 seems to apply that weather to the whole world.

08-02-07, 08:58 AM	#13
Elmo Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 8 Downloads: 313 Uploads: 0	I want to be sure about one thing. Saving and reloading during a patrol causes the weather to change more frequently, or less?

08-03-07, 09:20 AM	#15
Elmo Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 8 Downloads: 313 Uploads: 0	Suppose you wanted the weather to change as frequently as possible. How would you do it?