Can Aircraft See You At PD?

[Brag]

Originally Posted by Thniper

Sshhhh! ... Keep it secret, keep it safe!
Can you make this thread disappear?

Though I think this is a hardcoded issue, otherwise they already would have changed it!

Happy hunting!

Yes, be careful what you say. Kpt Lehman and his devilish GWX crew are on Winnie Churchill's payroll.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Well, technically we could make visual sensors (enemy crew) see you below the water.

The trick that is needed to make it so the enemy can only spot you underwater when they are right on top of you... as opposed to underwater thousands of meters away... is even possible. We could even set it to a specific negative depth... though it would be a fixed setting.

What would be needed is to simply add a new very short range visual sensor to the AI_Sensors.dat... just angle it sharply downward and create a maximum angle so that it cannot see very far into the distance horizontally.

Why we are not going to do it...

1) This sensor would have to be added to HUNDREDS of units already in GWX. (surface, land AND air)

2) It would RARELY come into play as the enemy would need to be VERY close to you and would require you to be at very shallow depth... and even then it should not be 100% effective.

3) Probable 1,000,000,000,000 users posts screaming at us and cursing our geneology.

4) Doing so would create weeks of work (maybe months) for this one issue alone... followed by much testing and adjustment.

5) The GWX Dev team would mutiny due to the unexpected volume of work that suddenly appeared... and probably call for a team vote with the following choices on the ballot:

a) Throw Kpt. Lehmann overboard without his helmet and respirator at Grid AK22.
b) Throw Kpt. Lehmann overboard without his helmet and respirator at Grid CD36.
c) Throw Kpt. Lehmann overboard without his helmet and respirator at Grid FD15.
d) Throw Kpt. Lehmann overboard without his helmet and respirator at Grid GN43.
e) Resuscitate Kpt. Lehmann after each dunking and do all of the above... wash, rinse, and repeat.

[Nuoz]

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I guess that's why I'm not project manager of anything...:rotfl:

[ReM]

From the U boat commander's handbook:

38.) The submerged submarine is most difficult to spot from the plane when all its horizontal surfaces are painted very dark. All other bright objects on the upper deck, as, for example, the insulators of the net wire, must have a coating of dark paint. In case of need, paint which has crumbled, or been washed off during the operations, must be replaced; for is purpose, a quantity of dark paint should always be available during operations.
39.) A submarine painted in this way can only be spotted by an airplane, if the submarine is submerged,
a) when the sun is shining, and the sunlight penetrates the water below the surface; without the sun, the water is a dark mass, which hides all objects from view;
b) when the surface of the sea is not so rough - approximately from motion [sea] 2 to 3 upwards - that the continuous refraction makes it impossible to see below the surface, even when the sun is shining;
c) when the airplane is almost vertically above the submarine. Because of the high speed of the airplane, it is very difficult to spot a submarine moving under water.
The conditions described above - sun, rough sea, position of the aircraft in relation to the submerged submarine - are relatively more favorable or unfavorable for the airplanes in sea areas with exceptionally clear, or exceptionally turbid, water, for example, in the Mediterranean, and in the Baltic at the mouths of rivers. In sea areas where the water is clear, so that it is correspondingly easier to look into it from airplanes directly above, the submarine must therefore submerge, in good time, to a greater depth, in order not to be spotted.

[HunterICX]

@Kpt. lehmann:

my pick would be ''E''

get your swimming suit ready

Originally Posted by HunterICX

@Kpt. lehmann:

my pick would be ''E''

get your swimming suit ready

I vote for that thing when a sailor is dragged under sub with ropes....
What was this punishment called?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

3) Probable 1,000,000,000,000 users posts screaming at us and cursing our geneology.

Curse your geneology!

Your mother is a...mother...

Your father is...well, I won't go there since we're only joking anyway.

Sorry, Kap, couldn't resist.

It would be a nice thing, but as you described, waaaay more work than it would ever be worth.

[Schöneboom]

Naja, I'm impressed that the Dark Lord himself noticed & responded to this idea -- and were I in his place, I wouldn't do a PD visibility mod either!

I think we can just "do the right thing" as the Handbook says, and not linger at PD. Of course, close to our home ports, sometimes we might not have much choice!

Mach's gut!

[Brag]

Dark Lord . . .chuckle, chuckle. How suitable

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