Did Skippers Seriously get Court martialed for losing their ship? - Page 2

Snowman999 · 04-16-07, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepSix

Technically...

a court-martial is a court of inquiry. Military law differs in some significant ways from civilian law. As Sailor Steve said, they're held to review serious incidents such as loss of one's ship. But being "court-martialed" is simply being "martialed," or ordered to appear, before a board of review. It often gets misused to refer to conviction for an offense, but that's not what it actually means.

Still... not something you want on your DD-214.

No, a Court of Inquiry is NOT a court martial or vice versa. A CofI is administrative, not judicial. There are no charges pending.

See http://www.cnn.com/interactive/law/0...t.exclude.html

for a good summary.

irish1958 · 04-16-07, 08:43 PM

The Indianapolis was torpedoed and sunk because the egomaniac MacArthur used up all the oil on his quest to be the new Caesar; as a result if the Indianapolis followed the proscribed regs to zigzag it would have been dead in the water about half way to port. In an attempt to reach port, the skipper chose to run straight and it turned out badly.

NefariousKoel · 04-16-07, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by irish1958

The Indianapolis was torpedoed and sunk because the egomaniac MacArthur used up all the oil on his quest to be the new Caesar; as a result if the Indianapolis followed the proscribed regs to zigzag it would have been dead in the water about half way to port. In an attempt to reach port, the skipper chose to run straight and it turned out badly.

I never had much high regard for MacArthur and his glory hound antics, much less his feigned drama. Talk about egotist.

TheSatyr · 04-17-07, 04:01 AM

I always considered MacArther and Halsey to be the 2 most overated Military leaders the USA had in WW2. They just both knew how to play the reporters that's all.

As for why I consider Halsey to be overrated,all one has to do is look at his actions on the Doolittle Raid,(launched too soon just because they spotted and sank a sampan),The Phillipines Sea,(He left the transports he was supposed to be protecting just to chase after 4 Japanese Carriers that the US carriers had already sunk or seriously damaged...and the Yamato group damn near got to the transports while Halsey was off chasing already trashed carriers.),And running into a typhoon...not once,but twice. Leading to losses of ships and alot of men. Quite frankly,if Halsey had been in command at Midway I have no doubt that he would have managed to lose that battle. He would have continued to chase the Japanese fleet and would have run right into a night battle with Yammamoto's main fleet. Halsey was great for morale and propaganda...but not a very good fleet commander.

04-16-07, 08:43 PM	#17
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	The Indianapolis was torpedoed and sunk because the egomaniac MacArthur used up all the oil on his quest to be the new Caesar; as a result if the Indianapolis followed the proscribed regs to zigzag it would have been dead in the water about half way to port. In an attempt to reach port, the skipper chose to run straight and it turned out badly. __________________ Irish1958

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04-17-07, 04:01 AM	#19
TheSatyr Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 545 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always considered MacArther and Halsey to be the 2 most overated Military leaders the USA had in WW2. They just both knew how to play the reporters that's all. As for why I consider Halsey to be overrated,all one has to do is look at his actions on the Doolittle Raid,(launched too soon just because they spotted and sank a sampan),The Phillipines Sea,(He left the transports he was supposed to be protecting just to chase after 4 Japanese Carriers that the US carriers had already sunk or seriously damaged...and the Yamato group damn near got to the transports while Halsey was off chasing already trashed carriers.),And running into a typhoon...not once,but twice. Leading to losses of ships and alot of men. Quite frankly,if Halsey had been in command at Midway I have no doubt that he would have managed to lose that battle. He would have continued to chase the Japanese fleet and would have run right into a night battle with Yammamoto's main fleet. Halsey was great for morale and propaganda...but not a very good fleet commander.