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Old 03-12-07, 09:54 AM   #1
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Asrocks makes a great MB that can run both AGP cards and PCI-E cards. With no performance loss!!

Great solution for those who want to upgrade their CPU and MB, but wants to wait with the graphics card.[/quote]

Yup. It's called ASRock 4COREDUAL-VSTA. Got one last week.
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Old 03-12-07, 12:24 PM   #2
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Chris
Asrocks makes a great MB that can run both AGP cards and PCI-E cards. With no performance loss!!

Great solution for those who want to upgrade their CPU and MB, but wants to wait with the graphics card.
Yup. It's called ASRock 4COREDUAL-VSTA. Got one last week.[/quote]

actually there is a performance loss and a MAJOR one, your pci express slot will only run at 4x while regular pcie slots run at x16 so your slot will be bottlenecking your video card big time

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157097

go with that 939 and u can get a fx60 for under 250$ these days but its still ddr , i recommened waiting a few more months for amds quadcore (intel quads suck compared to amd quads)
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Old 03-12-07, 03:04 PM   #3
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Good advice elite hunter ... I knew you would come in handy for something

edit: except for the intel flame that is
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Old 03-12-07, 05:01 PM   #4
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Chris
Asrocks makes a great MB that can run both AGP cards and PCI-E cards. With no performance loss!!

Great solution for those who want to upgrade their CPU and MB, but wants to wait with the graphics card.
Yup. It's called ASRock 4COREDUAL-VSTA. Got one last week.
actually there is a performance loss and a MAJOR one, your pci express slot will only run at 4x while regular pcie slots run at x16 so your slot will be bottlenecking your video card big time

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157097

go with that 939 and u can get a fx60 for under 250$ these days but its still ddr , i recommened waiting a few more months for amds quadcore (intel quads suck compared to amd quads)[/quote]

No, there isn`t any performance loss, not acording to Legit review. I also have Asrock Dual VSTA 775 (almoust the same, as 4CORE VSTA), and I get the same results with X800GTO2 as my friend, who has the same CPU (pentium d 805 @ 3.8ghz) and gfx card, but has an asus mb with 16x pci-e.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/377/14/

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So what did we see during our tests? Other than 3DMark our 7900GTX performed nearly the same on both boards despite the ASRock only having a 4x PCI-E slot. It?s extremely doubtful that you?d be able to tell what motherboard was being used if you couldn?t peek inside the case.
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I am not surprised at all to see that there is no difference with PCI-E 4x. Why?. Well, there is no difference between AGP 4x an 8x (4x is even faster sometimes), so there isn't any with the PCI-E, a forced change by the hardware companies. I'm still on AGP with a x1950 Pro 512 MB, not changing to PCI-E for at least 18 months, maybe more.
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Old 03-13-07, 07:24 PM   #6
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On the topic title, my x1950xt had bloody better run SH4... not that I'm actually worried in terms of performance, but the card is incompatible with the current vista drivers for one.
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the card is incompatible with the current vista drivers for one.
The X1950 XT is a fine graphics card indeed.

Out of curiosity, are you running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Vista? I'm planning on building a new machine in the next few days, and although I was going to install WinXP onto it, I'm now seriously entertaining 64-bit Vista Ultimate, as I can get a decent deal on an OEM version with the components for my build. I'm just not looking forward to the various driver growing pains.

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Old 03-14-07, 03:12 AM   #8
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Chris
Asrocks makes a great MB that can run both AGP cards and PCI-E cards. With no performance loss!!

Great solution for those who want to upgrade their CPU and MB, but wants to wait with the graphics card.
Yup. It's called ASRock 4COREDUAL-VSTA. Got one last week.
actually there is a performance loss and a MAJOR one, your pci express slot will only run at 4x while regular pcie slots run at x16 so your slot will be bottlenecking your video card big time

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157097

go with that 939 and u can get a fx60 for under 250$ these days but its still ddr , i recommened waiting a few more months for amds quadcore (intel quads suck compared to amd quads)
No, there isn`t any performance loss, not acording to Legit review. I also have Asrock Dual VSTA 775 (almoust the same, as 4CORE VSTA), and I get the same results with X800GTO2 as my friend, who has the same CPU (pentium d 805 @ 3.8ghz) and gfx card, but has an asus mb with 16x pci-e.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/377/14/

here is the quote from that review:

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So what did we see during our tests? Other than 3DMark our 7900GTX performed nearly the same on both boards despite the ASRock only having a 4x PCI-E slot. It?s extremely doubtful that you?d be able to tell what motherboard was being used if you couldn?t peek inside the case.
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Well I have the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2, and theres no loss there.
In the link you sent a guy is searching for the ASRock 939Dual-SATA2, for the same reason. Looks the Asrock did a poor job on the new MB
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