How many SH3 modders will we lose after SH4 is released?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Rubini

Ducimus wrote:

I never understood why some ppl here in this community never made a good set of single player missions with triggers, objectives, specific radio messages and new orders. The SH3 mission editor allows do make all this easily.
Ok, it´s not a dinamic campaign but could be cool and challenge to play some historicall well made interconnected missions!
Nobody made it, nobody!

Rubini ive thought about it. But for some reason it doesnt have appeal because your not "awarded" for completion like in a campaign game.

*shrug* maybe i should try, i dunno. I know my way around the mission editor, in terms of making convoys and such, but ive never tried scripting anything - not sure how its done.

edit: you know, fleshing out U-505's service record would be pretty cool.

I mean, in one patrol, U505 got bombed by a pilot by the name of Silcock. The boat was heavily damaged. The current skipepr Zech (spelling) , was prone to throw temper tantrums and acutaly called the abandon ship order. One of the chief mechanics embarassed him by saying "well you do what you want, but the technical crew is going to keep her afloat" Zech was never popular with the crew. The acutally had to fix a hole in the pressure hull, and that dumbass desperate to not go back enpty handed tried to push that boat in the condition it was in to get ships coming in/out of port spain. I dont know how close they got but that bit of madness was abandoned and the boat then made for port.

If you could script silcocks attack, then try and push a wounded bout that in SH3 terms probably had 20% hull integrity into a well guarded harbor, and then back accross the atlantic and through biscay bay... that be something of a nail biting trip.

[Filax]

Hi

hope there will be some modders left to prevent this game from dying until SH5 is released which is hopefully turning back to the Atlantic. I do not care about the Pacific that much. The uboat war was an atlantic matter, wasn´t it.

Filax

[Iron Budokan]

I think some modders may move on, but as pointed out, those who love U-boats will always be around.

I'm surprised, too, there has been so little done on single missions. DW and Sub Command have a ton of these. Is it because those games aren't dynamic anyway? I find it hard to believe single missions aren't being done for the community just because you wouldn't get renown. I mean, I would play them. I can't make them with the mission editor -- I'm too dumb -- but I would play them.

[The General]

SH4 is so much better than SH3, there won't be anybody left playing it let alone modding it. Some of you dieharders wil say you will, but you won't. SH4's gonna make you forget all about 3. That's progress and you cannot stand in the way.

[ref]

Originally Posted by The General

SH4 is so much better than SH3, there won't be anybody left playing it let alone modding it. Some of you dieharders wil say you will, but you won't. SH4's gonna make you forget all about 3. That's progress and you cannot stand in the way.

For what I've read of SHIV the only big improvements are in graphics, they added a few new mission objectives and improved a bit the radio traffic, in fact they cut features existing in SH3, I don't know if that alone is enough to call it "progress", once I get it and play around a bit I'll tell you if I drop SH3, a lot of people are rushing into conclusions before trying the real deal...
Don't forget that GW/NYGM campaigns are huge compared to the stock one, don't expect UBI will deliver something like that.

One of the first thnigs I'll do is to check how hard is to import sh3 stuff into it.

Ref

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by The General

SH4 is so much better than SH3, there won't be anybody left playing it let alone modding it. Some of you dieharders wil say you will, but you won't. SH4's gonna make you forget all about 3. That's progress and you cannot stand in the way.

Bit of a generalised statement and more than a bit arrogant
I have no interest in the PTO and my comp wont play it anyway
So there is no way I will be dropping SHIII

If and when I manage to upgrade the comp I will have a look but only out of curiosity
The Atlantic is the place I WANT to be

[Venatore]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Bit of a generalised statement and more than a bit arrogant
I have no interest in the PTO and my comp wont play it anyway
So there is no way I will be dropping SHIII

If and when I manage to upgrade the comp I will have a look but only out of curiosity
The Atlantic is the place I WANT to be

I've got your back on this one Bigboywooly, and for "The General" dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of the SH3 fourm . Right where was I with mods for the members :hmm:

[mr chris]

Originally Posted by Venatore

I've got your back on this one Bigboywooly, and for "The General" dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of the SH3 fourm . Right where was I with mods for the members :hmm:

Spot on Venatore and Bigboywooly.

Originally Posted by The General

SH4 is so much better than SH3, there won't be anybody left playing it let alone modding it. Some of you dieharders wil say you will, but you won't. SH4's gonna make you forget all about 3. That's progress and you cannot stand in the way.

Be careful when making big predictions like that. Whenever I read statements like this about the still unreleased SH4, I think a lot of people here are setting themselves up for a major disappointment. SH4 may be the best Silent Hunter released yet, or may be the worst. It might be riddled with major bugs, or it might be almost bug-free. It might be all fluff with no filling, or it might be lots of fluff with lots of filling. It might be a huge success, or it might be major flop. It might have great gameplay, or it might have horrible gameplay. It might be realistic, or it might be arcadish. We just don't know, because it hasn't even been released yet.

[iambecomelife]

SH4 might be progress, but I prefer to mod a more established game like SH3. IIRC SH4 may be less mod friendly - someone said that it will not be possible to add new ships, for instance. I'll be adding new merchants for the current game around the time that SH4 comes out, and even after my current mod is finished I will still be interested in implementing other mods for SH3 - specifically, many more crew faces and a hypothetical WWII 1946 mod (although the latter may be impossible). I don't feel burned out, even though we are likely to experience "diminishing returns" on our modding investments in the future...

[JCWolf]

I kind agree with most said over this Thread, but I honestly
think that in short range horizon we can see Moded campaignes over the SH4,
I also bellieave that it's more real the adaptation of SH4 to a complete
German Atlantic Moded campaigne then on the oposite direction, seeing
the conversion of SH4 files adapted to SHIII is in my opinion
a waste of SH4 graphic and game play potencial...

I bellieave that "Transporting" the SHIII German campaigne into
SH4 will be for sure a chalendge and aThe most probable solution
to finaly give SHIII U-boat history and Atlantic teather a Real
game expirience....

[AG124]

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

...someone said that it will not be possible to add new ships, for instance.

Where did you hear that? I hope it is not true, because no matter how many ships are included in stock SHIV there is always room for more.

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by AG124

Where did you hear that? I hope it is not true, because no matter how many ships are included in stock SHIV there is always room for more.

Look here AG

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...8&postcount=15

Time will tell mate no doubt
Or you can carry on building for the Atlantic
lol

[DivingDuck]

Moin,

first of all I have to commit that, allthough I prefer the Atlantic theater, I´ve pre-ordered a copy of SHIV. (Shame on me) At least the Pacific War is part of history, so there will be many who are insterested. Besides most of the subsimmers don´t play at 100% and most important issue to care about is eyecandy. Remember all the modding threads. Whenever anything new comes up everybody is asking for more details and better graphics. I´ll stay with SHIII for quite a while, not finshed yet. There are still many things to be done.



Let´s hope there will be space for modding in SHIV. Maybe some parts may be transported/converted to SHIII. Anyway, I´m looking forward to SHV which will return to the Atlantic, hopefully.

Regards,
DD

[RDDR]

Really glad to hear these positive comments from modders.
I'm new on this forum but have been playing SHIII for quite a while and after a few rocky starts and stops (ie) damaged hard drive etc etc... however with some great help from members of the community I'm all repaired, patched up and in for the long haul.
I really love this sim and know more historically about the Atlantic War than the Pacific.
That said, really looking forward to SHIV as well, and hope that some new mods will be created that can be used in both theatres as the game engine is pretty close from what I'm told.
I have enough space with two large hard drives,and it's my plan to have both theatres loaded and ready to go.