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Old 02-20-07, 07:16 AM   #1
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- DISABLE all activated modifications if you use the "Jonesoft Generic Mod Enabler" (JSGME). You cannot use JSGME to install GWX Patch 1.02, but you can use JSGME to activate other modifications after GWX Patch 1.02 is installed.

- REMOVE any installed SH3 Commander files (if you use "SH3 Commander") by pressing the "Rollback SH3" button from within SH3 Commander.

- ENSURE your active careers are all safely docked in port!

It is important that you follow these steps as the installer will look for SH3 Commander and JSGME files and will halt if any are found. Likewise the installer will halt if it does not find certain key GWX files.
This should see you right.
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Old 02-20-07, 07:22 AM   #2
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Yep. First thing I did was to read carefully the info and do all of the above. Why the error message?...as I show, no mods are enabled in JSGME. Sh3Cmmdr is rolled back, and my last save is in a patrol. Should I delete my last saves too? (that would be a disaster, I'm returning from the most nerve shattering and breathtaking patrol in my carreer)
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Old 02-20-07, 07:28 AM   #3
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You must be in port when you apply the patch. I've just left port on my current patrol so won't be able to apply the patch until I get back to Kiel.

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Old 02-20-07, 07:33 AM   #4
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Assuming that you've opened the JSGME that is installed in the same folder as the SilentHunterIII that you want to patch, then you must have residual files left under that JSGME install, most likely from manually deleting mods that were still installed.

To check, open up the SilentHunterIII folder that you want to install the patch into (in Windows Explorer). You should see a MODS sub folder. Under it will be a !BACKUP folder. If you have ANY FILES under that backup folder, then, based on your screenshot above, you have residual files left over from previous mods. To be blunt, this would be indicative of poor housekeeping (not disabling or enabling mods correctly or deleting mods that are still enabled).

*If* this is the case, then you have two options:

1. Delete everything under the !BACKUP folder and "hope for the best", recognising that any subsequent CTDs will most likely be caused by conflicting files (if the installer doesn't pick it up of course).

2. Trash the install and start again.

Personally, I'd go the latter (your CTD comment above, whilst perhaps flippant, seems suggestive of an unstable installation).

Now if you *don't* have any files under !BACKUP then your problem is most likely easier to correct - simply make sure that the installation you selected in the installer is the same as the installation for which you disabled the mods.

EDIT: No, you won't get this error if you manually modified files directly in your SH3. You may, however, get another error (which does not look to be the case here) saying that you don't have a proper GWX install. However, simply installing a new ship and editing renown should not upset the installer. But you will need to re-add the ship to your *Names.cfg file afterwards, but that should be all that is required.
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Old 02-20-07, 07:53 AM   #5
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Thanks JScones for the feedback. Will finish patrol and reinstall...I had a few CTDs in the past, mainly because I tested 20+ mods at any given time together...

Will report findings later. Thank you all for your help...
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Old 02-20-07, 09:45 AM   #6
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Just a quick question, after applying the new patch do you reapply the dec23rd patch via jsgme or just use the new patch by its self?

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Old 02-20-07, 09:47 AM   #7
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Just a quick question, after applying the new patch do you reapply the dec23rd patch via jsgme or just use the new patch by its self?

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After the new patch you play the game The Dec and all other corrections are already included. If you need more information read the manual
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Old 02-20-07, 09:47 AM   #8
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just the new patch
The Dec 23rd patch should be deleted by the patch
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Thank you, Modders (not to be confused with mothers). I just left on patrol so will have to either get killed or wait 'til I'm back.
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Yep. First thing I did was to read carefully the info and do all of the above. Why the error message?...as I show, no mods are enabled in JSGME. Sh3Cmmdr is rolled back, and my last save is in a patrol. Should I delete my last saves too? (that would be a disaster, I'm returning from the most nerve shattering and breathtaking patrol in my carreer)
On a totally unrelated matter, do you know that there is an updated JSGME? One that would let you view the interface in Greek no less (courtesy of melnibonian)? If a Greek JSGME appeals to you, read http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105421
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Installation

Before installing:

- DISABLE all activated modifications if you use the "Jonesoft Generic Mod Enabler" (JSGME). You cannot use JSGME to install GWX Patch 1.02, but you can use JSGME to activate other modifications after GWX Patch 1.02 is installed.

- REMOVE any installed SH3 Commander files (if you use "SH3 Commander") by pressing the "Rollback SH3" button from within SH3 Commander.

- ENSURE your active careers are all safely docked in port!

It is important that you follow these steps as the installer will look for SH3 Commander and JSGME files and will halt if any are found. Likewise the installer will halt if it does not find certain key GWX files.
This should see you right.
I did all of this, even pasted all the mods to another folder. Deleted all the mods in the folder. Then installed 1.02, there was a CTD using a previous career (pre-1.02). However, started a new career and all was well. It must have been something in the old career.

As part of the process I did have an intial problem with random weather, tried user defined and all was fine. Have not had the time to go back again and try random weather through SHWeather. Will do this later.

Anyway, some great suggestions in this thread, as usual GWX rocks
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My feeling is that you had the CTD because your career was not a GWX one. Did you start it in GW or any other mod? Usually if this happens there is a high chance of CTD as GWX has changed the flotilla and bases.
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My feeling is that you had the CTD because your career was not a GWX one. Did you start it in GW or any other mod? Usually if this happens there is a high chance of CTD as GWX has changed the flotilla and bases.
No it was a GWX one, I just started it a few days ago. When 1.02 came out I went back to port ( with half my backside ripped off ), got out of the game and went through the install process with the new update.
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Old 02-21-07, 06:13 PM   #15
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My feeling is that you had the CTD because your career was not a GWX one. Did you start it in GW or any other mod? Usually if this happens there is a high chance of CTD as GWX has changed the flotilla and bases.
No it was a GWX one, I just started it a few days ago. When 1.02 came out I went back to port ( with half my backside ripped off ), got out of the game and went through the install process with the new update.
Your career sounds like it is a casualty of the patch changes. From the patch 1.02 release post (I have bolded the relevant text):

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- Please do not assume that third-party mods compatible with previous versions of GWX are compatible with GWX 1.02. If in doubt, consult the modder.

- Whilst most existing careers will continue to work with GWX 1.02, the sheer magnitude of the campaign changes means that the GWX team can not guarantee that all existing careers will continue to work.

- SH3 Commander users must d/l and install updated GWX config files. D/l http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX...fg4SH3Cmdr.zip and install as instructed.
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