Rig For Red Automatic??

Payoff · 02-07-07, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMilton

There are a few things that I liked back in SH2 but have either disappeared or changed form:

- Selectable Rig for Red (I don't want to go to bed yet mom..!)
- Editable Captain's log (I want to remember what the **** went wrong with that torpedo)
- That little chronometer that you could popup at any station (Why do you think you see old guys with these, in sub movies?)
- Controllable engines (I want to travel on the surface with my e-motors)
- Controllable dive planes (I want to dive REALLY fast, so step on it)
- Engines that overheat from abusive use (what do you think this is, a scarab from Baywatch? take it easy with the flank)

If I forget something by all means, be my guest. Maybe I open a thread about this. You know, a trip down memory lane.... :hmm:

Dont forget 5 Degree incremental rudder inputs with the keyboard that have been reduced to "Hard to Starboard" & "Hard to Port".

Iron Budokan · 02-08-07, 02:41 AM

Okay, so I guess I don't understand...why would it be better to have a selectable rig for red instead of automatic? Don't the red lights come on when it's dark outside, which is what you want?

Payoff · 02-08-07, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Okay, so I guess I don't understand...why would it be better to have a selectable rig for red instead of automatic? Don't the red lights come on when it's dark outside, which is what you want?

Yes they do come on at night, and only at night. Thats my point. When I go into attack mode, I want the boat rigged for red, whether its 12 midnight or 12 noon. If I'm hunting in early morning or late evening I want the red mask in my periscope TGA to kick in, even if the clock says "sorry, just a few more minutes yet until its officially dark". When I'm setting up a shot, I dont want to back out to a brightly lit conning tower or map,( I wish the TDC was dimmed as well ). Too me a subsim is all about atmosphere, and lighting, whether its in a movie, or a night club, or a game, is a very mood setting tool. If I want to go deep to ride out a storm, or some escorts, and I know I will be down for several hours, I should be able to flip a switch and go back to normal lighting if I choose to. I guess you get used to having these features in older games and when its taken away, you realize how much you miss it.

dean_acheson · 02-08-07, 10:50 AM

Agree.

I hate the auto rig for red.

When you are at 300 ft being depth charged, I don't think that night vision is as important as being able to see the keyboard or things in the control room.

Just my feeling. I only swithed on the red lights in SH1 when i was getting ready to do a battle surface or such.

Same with the engines.

I WANT A CALANDAR IN MY WARDROOM WITH SUNSET/SUNRISE/MOONSET/MOONRISE TIMES

the US boats, with the four diesels ought to be player controllable to put on or off line for charging/and or speed.

Threadfin · 02-08-07, 01:39 PM

Red lighting was only used in the early part of the war. Eventually they went to red goggles for the topside crew and used white lights throughout the boat not just the engine rooms. So the question is, will SH4 use red lighting through the entire war? Ahh, the suspense

Iron Budokan · 02-08-07, 01:49 PM

Oh, okay, I didn't know the boats rigged for red when going into attack even if it was noon...

What's the reason for doing that? I understand having red light at night to preserve your dark vision, what's the point of it during the day?

sunvalleyslim · 02-08-07, 03:13 PM

The red lights were used also for the crews quarters. Remember unless you're at battle stations all berthing compartments were red to allow off duty sailors some sleep. The other compartments were lighted by time of day. If you're not part of the topside watch, i.e. lookouts and officer of the deck,you never get to see outside. The only way to tell if it was day or night was to check the lights and see what color they were. Being in a darkened submarine, and surfacing into daylight never had a profound effect on your eye adjustment, you would have to have ripped them off once you got topside because it would effect your ability to see long range....

02-08-07, 02:41 AM	#2
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Okay, so I guess I don't understand...why would it be better to have a selectable rig for red instead of automatic? Don't the red lights come on when it's dark outside, which is what you want? __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-08-07, 01:39 PM	#5
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Red lighting was only used in the early part of the war. Eventually they went to red goggles for the topside crew and used white lights throughout the boat not just the engine rooms. So the question is, will SH4 use red lighting through the entire war? Ahh, the suspense __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

02-08-07, 01:49 PM	#6
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Oh, okay, I didn't know the boats rigged for red when going into attack even if it was noon... What's the reason for doing that? I understand having red light at night to preserve your dark vision, what's the point of it during the day? __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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02-08-07, 10:50 AM	#4
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Agree. I hate the auto rig for red. When you are at 300 ft being depth charged, I don't think that night vision is as important as being able to see the keyboard or things in the control room. Just my feeling. I only swithed on the red lights in SH1 when i was getting ready to do a battle surface or such. Same with the engines. I WANT A CALANDAR IN MY WARDROOM WITH SUNSET/SUNRISE/MOONSET/MOONRISE TIMES the US boats, with the four diesels ought to be player controllable to put on or off line for charging/and or speed.

02-08-07, 03:13 PM	#7
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	The red lights were used also for the crews quarters. Remember unless you're at battle stations all berthing compartments were red to allow off duty sailors some sleep. The other compartments were lighted by time of day. If you're not part of the topside watch, i.e. lookouts and officer of the deck,you never get to see outside. The only way to tell if it was day or night was to check the lights and see what color they were. Being in a darkened submarine, and surfacing into daylight never had a profound effect on your eye adjustment, you would have to have ripped them off once you got topside because it would effect your ability to see long range....