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Old 10-05-23, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default S-boat upgraded when there is no upgrade

this was an interesting development.

in this config of RFB, there is only one UpgradeClass of boats, they are all zero.
so, when our trusty, little S-boat aged-out on November 1, 1943, i expected to be retired.
but, nooooo, they offered a new boat, which was unexpected. and so, i took the upgrade, and was given command of a new Balao, which was not an upgrade according to the rules of SH4.

but...as many of us have learned, the hard way...the only rule in SH4 is that there are no rules.
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Old 10-05-23, 07:17 PM   #2
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Ahhhh... but a lot like the English language with all of its exceptions to "rules" and things things like "I before E except after C ..." etc... In this case, the S Boat does not transfer out, so you go to the next available boat. At Brisbane, the Balao is listed next... Not a bad (though a bit unrealistic) choice. The Balao goes available in that mod on 4th February, 1943. I don't have the mod in front of me to see what the Flotilla date is there though.
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Ahhhh... but a lot like the English language with all of its exceptions to "rules" and things things like "I before E except after C ..." etc... In this case, the S Boat does not transfer out, so you go to the next available boat. At Brisbane, the Balao is listed next... Not a bad (though a bit unrealistic) choice. The Balao goes available in that mod on 4th February, 1943. I don't have the mod in front of me to see what the Flotilla date is there though.
we transferred out of Australia.
it was fun while it lasted.
Pearl is 7500 miles closer to the US of A.
we'll be here until the end of the war, unless this mod activates a Mariana's base.
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If you had RSRDC on it, it would... of course, someone forgot to remove the Japanese shoreguns in a timely manner, but you can approach Saipan from the east and get away with it...
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If you had RSRDC on it, it would... of course, someone forgot to remove the Japanese shoreguns in a timely manner, but you can approach Saipan from the east and get away with it...
RFB with RSRD?
interesting.
i'll have to look into that.
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RFB with RSRD?
interesting.
i'll have to look into that.
When, years ago, played SH4, RFB or TMO with RSRDC, found the campaigns so hardly scripted, the game resulted boring when you could predict the movements of all the traffic. For me, TMO or RFB are good mods without RSRDC.

I remember long and funny nights playing RFB with a lot of little mods.

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When, years ago, played SH4, RFB or TMO with RSRDC, found the campaigns so hardly scripted, the game resulted boring when you could predict the movements of all the traffic. For me, TMO or RFB are good mods without RSRDC.

I remember long and funny nights playing RFB with a lot of little mods.

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yeah, so, i made the leap from RFB 2.0 vanilla by adding RSRD V5.x.
lots of changes!
one of the bad changes is that i have lost the ability to use the hydrophone.
the sensor team uses it and calls out the contacts, etc, however when i go to the hydrophone station and click on the bearings, the hydrophone refuses to move. while this is not a catastrophic issue, it does impair my effectiveness.
any hints as to what may have changed and is now getting in the way?

maybe a better question to ask is this: which files, or parameters within a file, allow the user-player to manipulate the hydrophone to a specific bearing? is it a sensor file or a camera file or .....? if i knew the file name, then i can see what adding RSRDC did with that file and (hopefully) discover why i cannot use the hydrophone as i did with vanilla RFB.

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after a bit more testing, i have determined that the change was NOT due to applying RSRDC but is part of RFB.
the hydrophone was usable with the S-boat i was driving but is NOT usable with the Balao. i made the upgrade co-incident with applying RSRDC so i blamed the new mod but that was an incorrect conclusion.
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more test results: in addition to the Balao, both the Gato and the Tampbar/Gar suffer from the same non-functionality of the hydrophone, but the Porpoise hydrophone functions just fine.


so, what is different about the hydrophone between the S-boat & Porpoise and the Tambor/Gar/Gato/Balao?
too many files were modified in RFB to eliminate them one at a time. i need a hint.


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[C:\Ubisoft\SH4_RFB\MODS]

1_RFB_2.0
2_RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010
3_SMMO for RFB 2.0
4_RFB_2.0_Patch_06June2019
5_Stop The Shouting
6_OTC RFB 2.0
7_Increased binoculars for RFB OTC
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8_09_RSRDC_RFB_V575
805_U.S. Medals Fix II_RFBv1.52
81_Clean and Quiet Map
82_Webster's 300' Underwater Visability for v1.5
83_3000 Yard Bearing Tool (1920x)
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