[REL] Dark Waters

Hey Fifi

Do you have intentions to keep updating OM Dark Waters? I've read your posts in the SH3 forum and love the addition of new ships you're doing there . And something DW really needs is updated models of ships (specially some of the escorts).

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by JapLance

Hey Fifi

Do you have intentions to keep updating OM Dark Waters? I've read your posts in the SH3 forum and love the addition of new ships you're doing there . And something DW really needs is updated models of ships (specially some of the escorts).

Hi, I’m sorry I don’t plan to update DW anymore for the moment …

OK. Sad to read this, but I can understand. Thanks for the hard work .

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by JapLance

Hey Fifi

Do you have intentions to keep updating OM Dark Waters? I've read your posts in the SH3 forum and love the addition of new ships you're doing there . And something DW really needs is updated models of ships (specially some of the escorts).

I am working on update for DW. Will take a while but adding a few things.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am working on update for DW. Will take a while but adding a few things.

That’s good news !

[Bubblehead1980]

Started career in Dec 1941 with a Type IXB to see how "Drumbeat" is in DW.


Off New York area...nice amount of unescorted and mostly unarmed traffic. Based on what read some skippers did, sit on bottom during day, surface at night. Interesting, can sit on bottom in DW, no damage. Just dive with no speed and let boat float and just before settling on bottom, hit the A key to level planes, boat will lightly settle onto sea floor.

[KaleunMarco]

Herr Kaleuns,

be advised that there is an unexpected logic error in the Black Sea Flotilla home ported in Contanza, Romania.

when you reach the end of the life of the port in August 1944, you should be ordered to scuttle your boat and retire. instead, you are given a Type XXIII, still based in Contanza and when you shove off on your next mission, SH4 takes a CTD.

if you reach this point, definitely refuse the boat upgrade and end your career.

i'll have to take a look at the logic again and try and figure out what we mis-calculated.

[Bubblehead1980]

Just wrapped up first "Drumbeat" patrol December 25, 1941- February 27, 1942.


Patrolled off New York and down to Outer Banks of North Carolina. Sunk eight ships for 51,054 tons. Six merchants, two tankers.


No surface ASW patrols encountered, even when just a few KM off shore. Only one Ventura patrol aircraft spotted, did not spot me.

Interesting enough, did have two merchants attempt to ram me when got too close at night.

Also, had a merchant respond to area after torpedoed another merchant. While waiting for it to sink, second merchant arrived in area, fired star shells and searched for my boat. Armed with deck guns fired at me, but submerged and attacked, sinking it.


Following what many Kaleuns did when off east coast during this time, submerged during daylight, rested on sea floor, surfaced at night to hunt. Exception being when a contact came near, detected by sound, would close for submerged attack in daylight. Sunk a large tanker off entrance to Chesapeake Bay.


Hopefully will be bit more of a challenge next patrol which has me off Jacksonville, FL area.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

Herr Kaleuns,

be advised that there is an unexpected logic error in the Black Sea Flotilla home ported in Contanza, Romania.

when you reach the end of the life of the port in August 1944, you should be ordered to scuttle your boat and retire. instead, you are given a Type XXIII, still based in Contanza and when you shove off on your next mission, SH4 takes a CTD.

if you reach this point, definitely refuse the boat upgrade and end your career.

i'll have to take a look at the logic again and try and figure out what we mis-calculated.

Thanks for the headsup


I have not explored that portion of the mod yet.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

Herr Kaleuns,

be advised that there is an unexpected logic error in the Black Sea Flotilla home ported in Contanza, Romania.

when you reach the end of the life of the port in August 1944, you should be ordered to scuttle your boat and retire. instead, you are given a Type XXIII, still based in Contanza and when you shove off on your next mission, SH4 takes a CTD.

if you reach this point, definitely refuse the boat upgrade and end your career.

i'll have to take a look at the logic again and try and figure out what we mis-calculated.

Check the "Command" dates, versus the Base dates, versus the Type IIB dates. I thought we had done a "fix" for that, but it probably did not go out in time for the v6 mix. Specifically, the Command (ID=30Flotilla") has

AvailabilityInterval=1942-09-21, 1944-09-01

While the base Constanza has

AvailabilityInterval= NULL, 1944-08-25 pre-dating the Command

and the Type IIB submarine has

AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL

In effect, what happens, is that the boat with the NULL, NULL follows the Base date of 1944-08-25 and is terminated then. However, since you are still assigned to "30Flotilla" (the ID line) for the actual Command, you then are in need of a Submarine with which to patrol in, so the game, out of the kindness of its heart, grants you a new one... even though it is an inappropriate assignment and there is no base from which to sail again, the game did in fact, give it to you, and has therefore "done its job". So what if it causes a CTD? meh

To "fix" it, try the Base itself as a NULL, NULL also, so that both the boat and the base follow the Availability of the 30Flotilla Command... maybe... - If that does not work, then change the date of the 30Flotilla to 1942-09-21, 1944-08-24, a day earlier than the Base's demise... I am almost positive though, that the "fix" was to do the NULL, NULL... ??

[Bubblehead1980]

While on patrol in North Atlantic in Feb 1942, searching for convoys, decided to pull up losses for 1942. While I was aware of heavy overall losses for the war, seeing it broken down by year, especially seeing how losses were relatively low until 1943, when the numbers grew staggering. Quite sobering.


1939- 9 U Boats lost.

1940- 24 U Boats lost


1941-35 U boats lost


1942- 87 U Boats lost


1943- 244 U Boats lost


1944-249 U Boats lost.


1945- 120 U Boats lost.




https://uboat.net/fates/losses/

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Check the "Command" dates, versus the Base dates, versus the Type IIB dates. I thought we had done a "fix" for that, but it probably did not go out in time for the v6 mix. Specifically, the Command (ID=30Flotilla") has

AvailabilityInterval=1942-09-21, 1944-09-01

While the base Constanza has

AvailabilityInterval= NULL, 1944-08-25 pre-dating the Command

and the Type IIB submarine has

AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL

In effect, what happens, is that the boat with the NULL, NULL follows the Base date of 1944-08-25 and is terminated then. However, since you are still assigned to "30Flotilla" (the ID line) for the actual Command, you then are in need of a Submarine with which to patrol in, so the game, out of the kindness of its heart, grants you a new one... even though it is an inappropriate assignment and there is no base from which to sail again, the game did in fact, give it to you, and has therefore "done its job". So what if it causes a CTD? meh

To "fix" it, try the Base itself as a NULL, NULL also, so that both the boat and the base follow the Availability of the 30Flotilla Command... maybe... - If that does not work, then change the date of the 30Flotilla to 1942-09-21, 1944-08-24, a day earlier than the Base's demise... I am almost positive though, that the "fix" was to do the NULL, NULL... ??

well, this is a new one for me.
check out the change i implemented in Flotillas:

[Flotilla 8]
ID= 30Flotilla
NameDisplayable= 30Flotilla-Flotilla-Name
AvailabilityInterval=1942-09-21, 1944-08-25

[Flotilla 8.Base 1]
ID= F8Constanza
NameDisplayable= 30Flotilla-Base-Name
Info= 30Flotilla-Base-Info
ExternalBaseName= Constanza
AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL

[Flotilla 8.UserPlayerUnitType 1]
ID= F8IIBlkS
NameDisplayable= Type IIB U-boat
AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL
IDLinkUserPlayerUnitType= IIBlkS
UnitTypeCommonality= 1
IDFlotillaLinkTransferTo= NULL

Now, we hove into port on August 25, right on schedule.
we were asked if we wanted a whole, new boat, and answered, No, Mein Herr.
so, we were in port with our old IIB.
clicked on the New Mission icon and.......


never seen that before.