US Politics Thread 2021-24

[August]

Originally Posted by u crank

A Democrat President ended a war that Democrat Senators and Representatives voted almost unanimously to start.

A war that the last Democrat President didn't manage to end in 8 whole years.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I assume you voted for someone to represent you in D.C.

What did the one you voted for say or do to end this debacle. What were your expectations of your representative and did they advance your will or did they just blow you off knowing you’ll just vote them in again?

What boils down is it’s YOU and your vote which allowed this to happen.

Regrettably, the people I voted for didn't win. Guess you once again presumed wrong.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Regrettably, the people I voted for didn't win. Guess you once again presumed wrong.

Your candidates had thoughts on this didn’t they? What was their plan to end the war in Afghanistan? Surely they had one that’s why you voted for them right? Please share what their plan was and how if more people voted for them they might have changed the course in Afghanistan or even prevent future U.S. military expansion.

[MaDef]

Give it up Rockstar, Arlo's playing word games, not worth paying attention to.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Your candidates had thoughts on this didn’t they? What was their plan to end the war in Afghanistan? Surely they had one that’s why you voted for them right? Please share what their plan was and how if more people voted for them they might have changed the course in Afghanistan or even prevent future U.S. military expansion.

So you want me to play the speculation game, too? I'm fairly confident that they would have made better choices than those who got (re)elected. But hey, if we focus on those who made the clusterfudge what it is then how can we focus on those who didn't yet slam them for *ShruG* whatever?

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Give it up Rockstar, Arlo's playing word games, not worth paying attention to.

Def, your 'word games' aren't better. But ... please ... keep trying.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Arlo

So you want me to play the speculation game, too? I'm fairly confident that they would have made better choices than those who got n(re)elected. But hey, if we focus on those who made the clusterfudge what it is then how can we focus on those who didn't yet slam them for *ShruG* whatever?

Speculation? I asked you a question about the persons you voted for and what the platform was they ran on regarding Afghanistan or future military expansion. I thought you might have had more to say about your candidates than you being just ‘fairly confident’ they might have better ideas. By that answer though it seems you don’t have a clue why you voted for them. Which IMO is exactly why as a nation we always find ourselves in places like Afghanistan, South America, Iraq, Syria, Africa and god knows where else dropping freedom and democracy bombs.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

[...] By that answer though it seems you don’t have a clue why you voted for them. Which IMO is exactly why as a nation we always find ourselves in places like Afghanistan, South America, Iraq, Syria, Africa and god knows where else dropping freedom and democracy bombs.

I have no idea what Arlo voted for and as in a democracy no one has to tell.

Apart from this i think the freedom and democracy bomb thing is just a thin disguise for politics to get hands on resources to make money with.
I somehow doubt that this is an especially "democrat" thing.
And if they are, they are not "left" at all; indeed i think there is no left wing party in the US.

If industry really swings away from oil there will be other precious resources like rare earths and so on in other countries to drop freedom bombs.. China comes to mind.

[Skybird]

Meanwhile Republican governed states where Reps fear they could lose future elections more likely change election rules to make it more difficult for voter groups likely to vote against them to even actually vote. Like gerrymandering, this is election rigging and an attempt to manipulate. It reveals an understanding of democracy that is not any different from that of the KP in China, Putin in Russia, or the SED in the GDR. These too have or had "free elections".

[Skybird]

Beware the Kraken.


https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...05.172.0_4.pdf

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Speculation? I asked you a question about the persons you voted for and what the platform was they ran on regarding Afghanistan or future military expansion. I thought you might have had more to say about your candidates than you being just ‘fairly confident’ they might have better ideas. By that answer though it seems you don’t have a clue why you voted for them. Which IMO is exactly why as a nation we always find ourselves in places like Afghanistan, South America, Iraq, Syria, Africa and god knows where else dropping freedom and democracy bombs.

If you can pull up a single 2020 Congressional candidate that had Afghanistan as part of their campaign platform (especially ending the war there) , please do. If not, then you're just playing performance theater. I know why I voted for/against specific candidates. It generally involved voting for someone who indicated some degree of actual care about their constituents and often involved repairing the nation, as a whole. Now do some spittle dancing about that.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Arlo

If you can pull up a single 2020 Congressional candidate that had Afghanistan as part of their campaign platform (especially ending the war there) , please do. If not, then you're just playing performance theater. I know why I voted for/against specific candidates. It generally involved voting for someone who indicated some degree of actual care about their constituents and often involved repairing the nation, as a whole. Now do some spittle dancing about that.

Such a simple question and you don’t have a clue. You’re just another lonely troll that babbles on about absolutely nothing looking for attention.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Such a simple question and you don’t have a clue. You’re just another lonely troll that babbles on about absolutely nothing looking for attention.

I see you apparently couldn't point out a single candidate who ran on a platrform with a detailed Afghanistan exit strategy (whether you supported them or not). Next time try challenging someone else to do what you're capable of. Anyone can ... on a forum. (clown)

[Rockstar]

Putz

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Putz

Moron.