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Old 07-29-21, 09:29 AM   #1
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Ok wow, sorry for my wrong answer. I was really beleaving these dials are just to fill out the screen.
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Old 07-29-21, 09:15 PM   #2
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So ... this is the attack map for the new GUI I am working on.





I just added a working alpha for testing to the download link on the first page.
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Old 07-29-21, 11:36 PM   #3
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Old 07-30-21, 12:13 AM   #4
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This looks amazing!
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Old 07-30-21, 06:20 AM   #5
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Hey diego, how about keeping attack map on and make the TDC retractable like this one.

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Old 07-30-21, 06:24 AM   #6
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I think that Attack Map (F6) is needed in case when FAT/LUT torpedoes are used. We have to set angles and it is easy when you see it on the Attack Map (F6)
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Hey diego, how about keeping attack map on and make the TDC retractable like this one.
Yes! I support this idea.
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Old 07-30-21, 03:54 PM   #7
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Hello all,


I would like to make clear that I am not replacing the Attack Map on DGUI. I am making a separate GUI for those like me who do not like the Attack Map. Personally, I find it unrealistic and not immersive, it also gives way too much information. So, the whole point of this new project is getting rid of it.


With respect to the possibility of including this TDC in DGUI, SH3 does not have the same functionality as SH4 or SH5. A draggable TDC has been made but it is much slower dragging it on top of the screen and back again than just pressing 2 keys. Also, some of the TDC functionality is hardcoded to the Attack Map page. Particularly, the TDC on/off button that works with problems outside of it and the numbers on the Torpedo Selection Switch that do not work at all.


Having said all that, I know that many people like the Attack Map and DGUI will continue to have it.


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Old 07-31-21, 03:14 AM   #8
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How should the badge in the upper left corner be signed? "Angle on the bow"(En) or "Vorhält Winkel" (Ge) ?
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Old 07-31-21, 09:56 AM   #9
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How should the badge in the upper left corner be signed? "Angle on the bow"(En) or "Vorhält Winkel" (Ge) ?
This depends on what period of the computer you are trying to go for. When this model, S3, was first introduced in mid 1941, that dial represented the lead angle, or “Vorhaltwinkel”. The computer also lacked the red impact angle lamp on the left side of the computer at this point. Some point in early 1943, the impact angle light was introduced, and that dial was re-purposed even later to show impact angle (“Auftreffwinkel”), I think after LuT was introduced.

When it was lead angle, it went to about 75° on either side. When it was impact angle it looked more like it does above, 180° to each side.

My recommendation would be to keep it as lead angle, since that was the representation of the dial through the majority of the war. Although I do acknowledge that impact angle is more useful.

Angle on bow though it never was, that is the second dial from the left on the bottom.
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Old 07-31-21, 12:50 PM   #10
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I tried to keep it as historically correct as possible but SH3 simply does not have all the original instruments. Also, the original TDC did not have torpedo settings.


The following dials are in their correct positions: target speed, target range, angle on bow, spread angle, gyroangle, and target bearing. I used the rest of the positions to place the other dials and switches on SH3s' TDC.


The dial in the upper left corner is a special case. As derstosstrupp explained, the dial that looked like that was the torpedo impact angle. That dial does not exist in SH3 and it is there for decoration. However, it is used for the 2nd gyroangle setting for Fat/Lut torpedoes and I use it for that. So, when you select a Fat/Lut torpedo it becomes active and gets a label.


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So, when you select a Fat/Lut torpedo it becomes active and gets a label.
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Old 07-31-21, 03:23 PM   #12
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I tried to keep it as historically correct as possible but SH3 simply does not have all the original instruments. Also, the original TDC did not have torpedo settings.


The following dials are in their correct positions: target speed, target range, angle on bow, spread angle, gyroangle, and target bearing. I used the rest of the positions to place the other dials and switches on SH3s' TDC.


The dial in the upper left corner is a special case. As derstosstrupp explained, the dial that looked like that was the torpedo impact angle. That dial does not exist in SH3 and it is there for decoration. However, it is used for the 2nd gyroangle setting for Fat/Lut torpedoes and I use it for that. So, when you select a Fat/Lut torpedo it becomes active and gets a label.


Regards
I noticed that immediately how you used the dials having no relevance in SH3 for others that do - very clever!
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Thank you!
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