Old fashion method for determining SPEED - Page 2

don1reed · 06-17-06, 06:01 PM

Seems a bit on the dry side for my suits, but, did you look here as well?

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...submarines&x=0

IronOutlaw · 06-17-06, 07:55 PM

Hi Jason210

The stuff you have created sounds most interesting. If you can send me the plans and program you refer to at hmsironduke@ozemail.com.au I would be most grateful.

Cheers

JohnnyBlaze · 06-18-06, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason210

I made a similar device out of a piece of card and a piece of acetate. Works great foir torpedo attacks. Be a nice addition in a WWI sub sim.

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/1.jpg

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/2.jpg

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/Render2.bmp

Anybody who wants the plans for this can get them from me.

I've also made a 3D model of this, that runs as a small program (.exe). You just need to minimise the game and get it up, but you can make notes from it and be ready to fire the torpedo at a certain time and certain angle.

ME ME ME ME!

I would pretty much appreciate the program you've made so if you put it online then I'm sure to get it.

Thanks for the effort

Augie64 · 06-19-06, 10:52 PM

Oooooo A bearing Rate Computer......

Dantenoc · 06-20-06, 01:21 AM

Smart stuff

, very nice.

Linton · 06-20-06, 06:05 PM

Has anybody tried to make a Spears wheel?it was made to compute periscope look interval.

Can anyone clean the image up to make it readable?

Alyebard · 06-22-06, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason210

I made a similar device out of a piece of card and a piece of acetate. Works great foir torpedo attacks. Be a nice addition in a WWI sub sim.

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/1.jpg

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/2.jpg

http://www.sjobo.nu/resource/images/Render2.bmp

Anybody who wants the plans for this can get them from me.

I've also made a 3D model of this, that runs as a small program (.exe). You just need to minimise the game and get it up, but you can make notes from it and be ready to fire the torpedo at a certain time and certain angle.

Please
amajosabater(at)gmail.com

thanks in advance

don1reed · 06-23-06, 09:00 AM

Here's an example of how it all works: Submerged, daylight torpedo attack.

I've spotted a small convoy on my port bow, heading east. I adjust my course and/or speed to get into a collision course with the medium merchant (c2), so that it's bearing is constant:

My Course = 006° True...

The target ship's AOB appears to be about 30° starboard...
I then apply the information to my combination "whiz-wheel"...

My "whiz-wheel" consists of 3 layered wheels.
The Large wheel represents TRUE Compass.
The Middle wheel represents the Submarine.
The Small wheel represents the Target.

Now that I know the target's Bearing and AOB, they point to the target's TRUE Course of 095°.

I need to compute the target's speed to complete my firing solution, so I flip the whiz-wheel to the opposite side and use the circular slide rule.

After plugging the info into the vorhaltrectner/TDC, I slow the boat to 1 kn. and wait for the target to reach about 70° AOB before pulling the trigger.

I might add here, that I never worry about RANGE.
Something I learned in the ACADEMY is, if the target (see above) fills 1/3 of the viewfinder in x1.5...you are within 1000m. So, whenever you get a sight picture like that (NO MATTER THE WEATHER)...you are close enough to kill.

Hope this made sense.

cheers,

IronOutlaw · 06-23-06, 08:15 PM

Hi Linton!

Had a look at the image but it doesn't become any clearer with any of the software I have.

I might be able to recreate one if I can get the detail of what is written on the device. Do you have those details? If you do send them to HMSIronDuke@ozemail.com..au and I will see what I can do.

Cheers

SubConscious · 06-25-06, 08:37 PM

Thank you all very much for your willingness to share this information. In my opinion, implements like this significantly increase the immersion of the game.

In truth, I don't even have Silent Hunter III yet. It's on order from Amazon and because I received free shipping on the order (the missus bought some children's books), I'm going to have to wait a bit. The best things in life are worth waiting for, right?

I used to play Aces of the Deep many years ago on my old Pentium I 200Mhz. I've tried a couple of low-budget sub sims over the years, but was unimpressed. Nothing, at least in my opinion, compared to AotD. Everything I've read about SHIII, however, leads me to believe that my quest for a good sub sim may be over. I'm certainly excited about the prospect of manual targeting, thus my interest in this thread and subsequent registration on this forum.

Thanks again for posting this information!

David

Linton · 06-30-06, 03:45 AM

Don1Reed would you be able to post some larger images so that I can make one.
Iron outlaw I wish i could tell you.I found the picture in undersea warfare magazine have a try manipulating their image and let me know how you got on.
Here's where I found it:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...5/ekelund.html

don1reed · 06-30-06, 07:03 AM

Linton,

Check your PM.

don1reed · 06-30-06, 09:21 AM

Anyone wanting a copy of the WHIZ WHEELS can get them here:http://rapidshare.de/files/24562741/Whiz_Wheel.rar.html,
Cheers,

Linton · 07-02-06, 10:05 AM

I shall be going out to the stationery store tomorrow to make my wheel.Thank you Don

Puster Bill · 07-02-06, 10:17 AM

Might I kindly suggest to the mods to make this thread sticky?

06-17-06, 06:01 PM	#16
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Seems a bit on the dry side for my suits, but, did you look here as well? http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...submarines&x=0 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

06-17-06, 07:55 PM	#17
IronOutlaw Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stewarts River, NSW, Australia Posts: 82 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Manual Calculators Hi Jason210 The stuff you have created sounds most interesting. If you can send me the plans and program you refer to at hmsironduke@ozemail.com.au I would be most grateful. Cheers __________________ Mit Kameradschaftlichen Grüßen Kapitänleutnant Wilhelm Weiß Unterbefehlshaber der 33te U-boot. Flot.

06-19-06, 10:52 PM	#19
Augie64 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Oooooo A bearing Rate Computer...... __________________ Augie\'s Mod area located at www.subsim.com www.64bitstuff.com

06-20-06, 06:05 PM	#21
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Has anybody tried to make a Spears wheel?it was made to compute periscope look interval. Can anyone clean the image up to make it readable? __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Linton; 06-20-06 at 06:13 PM.

06-23-06, 09:00 AM	#23
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Here's an example of how it all works: Submerged, daylight torpedo attack. I've spotted a small convoy on my port bow, heading east. I adjust my course and/or speed to get into a collision course with the medium merchant (c2), so that it's bearing is constant: My Course = 006° True... The target ship's AOB appears to be about 30° starboard... I then apply the information to my combination "whiz-wheel"... My "whiz-wheel" consists of 3 layered wheels. The Large wheel represents TRUE Compass. The Middle wheel represents the Submarine. The Small wheel represents the Target. Now that I know the target's Bearing and AOB, they point to the target's TRUE Course of 095°. I need to compute the target's speed to complete my firing solution, so I flip the whiz-wheel to the opposite side and use the circular slide rule. After plugging the info into the vorhaltrectner/TDC, I slow the boat to 1 kn. and wait for the target to reach about 70° AOB before pulling the trigger. I might add here, that I never worry about RANGE. Something I learned in the ACADEMY is, if the target (see above) fills 1/3 of the viewfinder in x1.5...you are within 1000m. So, whenever you get a sight picture like that (NO MATTER THE WEATHER)...you are close enough to kill. Hope this made sense. cheers, __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell Last edited by don1reed; 06-23-06 at 09:14 AM.

06-20-06, 01:21 AM	#20
Dantenoc Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ensenada, B.C., Mexico Posts: 504 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Smart stuff , very nice.

06-23-06, 08:15 PM	#24
IronOutlaw Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stewarts River, NSW, Australia Posts: 82 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Spears Wheel Hi Linton! Had a look at the image but it doesn't become any clearer with any of the software I have. I might be able to recreate one if I can get the detail of what is written on the device. Do you have those details? If you do send them to HMSIronDuke@ozemail.com..au and I will see what I can do. Cheers __________________ Mit Kameradschaftlichen Grüßen Kapitänleutnant Wilhelm Weiß Unterbefehlshaber der 33te U-boot. Flot.

06-25-06, 08:37 PM	#25
SubConscious Frogman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 309 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Thank you all very much for your willingness to share this information. In my opinion, implements like this significantly increase the immersion of the game. In truth, I don't even have Silent Hunter III yet. It's on order from Amazon and because I received free shipping on the order (the missus bought some children's books), I'm going to have to wait a bit. The best things in life are worth waiting for, right? I used to play Aces of the Deep many years ago on my old Pentium I 200Mhz. I've tried a couple of low-budget sub sims over the years, but was unimpressed. Nothing, at least in my opinion, compared to AotD. Everything I've read about SHIII, however, leads me to believe that my quest for a good sub sim may be over. I'm certainly excited about the prospect of manual targeting, thus my interest in this thread and subsequent registration on this forum. Thanks again for posting this information! David

06-30-06, 03:45 AM	#26
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don1Reed would you be able to post some larger images so that I can make one. Iron outlaw I wish i could tell you.I found the picture in undersea warfare magazine have a try manipulating their image and let me know how you got on. Here's where I found it: http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...5/ekelund.html __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

06-30-06, 07:03 AM	#27
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Linton, Check your PM. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

06-30-06, 09:21 AM	#28
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Anyone wanting a copy of the WHIZ WHEELS can get them here:http://rapidshare.de/files/24562741/Whiz_Wheel.rar.html, Cheers, __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell Last edited by don1reed; 06-30-06 at 09:26 AM.

07-02-06, 10:05 AM	#29
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I shall be going out to the stationery store tomorrow to make my wheel.Thank you Don __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

07-02-06, 10:17 AM	#30
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Might I kindly suggest to the mods to make this thread sticky? __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

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