Sweden

[skidman]

lol I think it more than just ABBA. Of all the nordic countries they have the highest death rate. Could it be said the Swedish government and King have blood on their hands when they placed more importance on its economy than the lives of its citizens. (sound familiar? )

Right. You got a point there. I think the Swedish way of dealing with the big C is the wrong way. Their high death rates are no surprise. The reason for doing it differently, however, is not economical but epidemiological. But yes: The Swedish government have blood on their hands.

I do not want to comment on Your "Stalin and the Swedes" approach. You can do better than that, but one thing is for sure (And maybe Markus can add some remarks here, cause he is much more nordic than I am.):

There is a cultural difference between Scandinavia and the rest of the world: There is a strong feeling of belonging together in nordic societies. Don't call it Socialism, it's something else. When I spent a few months in Norway it was a big surprise for me that you could look up the amount of taxes your neighbor paid last year on a public website. Tax burdens in nordic countries are high and they are extremely high in Sweden, but most of the wealthy people are OK with this. Social insurance institutions are strongly supported. Lots of public money is spent on promotion of cultural activity, that is why so many fantastic (metal-)bands originate from Sweden, Norway and Denmark.

Putting the "Socialistic" label on Scandinavian societies is inadequate and ignorant. They have produced a high level of social cohesion, maybe this is a strange concept for a US citizen, but Scandinavia is standing strong.

So maybe you should cross the pond, sit at the midsummer fire, listen to blond girls singing and strumming their guitars while the moonshine schnaps is circulating. Man, I had a good time there...

[JU_88]

Sweden has a high level of social cohesion?

Not so much when it comes to migrants, as recently as last year were we seeing reports of mass car torchings, occasional grenade attacks, women afraid to leave their homes at night in some areas like Malmo, police and emergency services coming under attack. etc
Sounds to me like Swedens got some problems with social cohesien it doesnt wasnt to admit, or deal with.
If you want 'multi culturalism' (which is nicer term for 'beef up your low birth rates by importing people') there are ways to do it so it actually works, While their intentions were partially good, Sweden appears to be rather cluless here and have done it in the worse way imaginable, taking in large numbers from a handful of demographics in short space of time, placing them in large sub urban concentrations rather than spreading them out, and they seem to have no real long term plan for integratating these people - especially their young.
The good migrants that have buckled down to learn swedish and tried to find work are having a really hard time getting any- some just giving up and leaving, and the not so good ones that dont care get about intergrating get bored will often wind up as thugs and start causing trouble.

If sweden is not careful, they will set them selves up for a permenantly segregated 2 teir societly like France (Paris suburbs in particular).
They will have a tough time fixing that and even if they do - it will take a generation or two, but i hope for their sake, they stop the denial (which is very dangerous) and demand a level headed reality check - preferably with out any pandering to counter productive far left and far right types screeching ideological nonsense.