New playables ?

[Alex Nenadic]

Originally Posted by Captain Norman

If a P-3 Orion is controllable without a joystick, and was very fun and unique to play as, it would be interesting to play as an F-14

There's no way in hell you could do anything of use with an F-14 without a joystick/throttle/rudder setup. Perhaps you could fire a missile or two, but what happens when a bandit ends up merging with you and its time to turn?

It would be like trying to drive a car without a steering wheel.

[Captain Norman]

True, but, if u own a sim, chances are u have a joystick. 2nd, ive simulated engagements with planes in Dangerous Waters, dogfights aint much. Using a menu or a key combination, u could easily have an option for tactical manoevures.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

I've tried playing plane sims without the joystick. It is adequate (not great, but adequate) until you have to do two things:

1) Land
2) Dogfight

But then, it wasn't like I was any good with these two even though the fact my joystick wouldn't stay centered may be a factor.

The digital on-off response given by keys on a keyboard isn't good enough.

As for commands, this will be fun, "Turn Left - 1Gs" "Turn Right - 3Gs".

[Captain Norman]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

I've tried playing plane sims without the joystick. It is adequate (not great, but adequate) until you have to do two things:

1) Land
2) Dogfight

But then, it wasn't like I was any good with these two even though the fact my joystick wouldn't stay centered may be a factor.

The digital on-off response given by keys on a keyboard isn't good enough.

As for commands, this will be fun, "Turn Left - 1Gs" "Turn Right - 3Gs".

lol, that would be fun. But takeoff and landing can be done with autopilot or something. Takeoff could be done with key presses in SU-27 Flanker, dogfighting would be tough, and landing could be simplified.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by Captain Norman

lol, that would be fun. But takeoff and landing can be done with autopilot or something. Takeoff could be done with key presses in SU-27 Flanker, dogfighting would be tough, and landing could be simplified.

Su-27 Flanker was exactly what I was talking about. I can shoot people down with R-77s just fine, but even with a joystick I can't cannon down the tanker I was supposed to be refuelling from (which lets me get close and it won't move a lot).