False ship data?

nazaka · 03-25-20, 12:38 AM

Hi,

I had a problem in play.
During an attack, I took my measurements for the RAOBF disc, and I got this:

If I look at the result correctly, in X6, with a height of 7.5 (1200m) and a length of 23, I get an AOB of 52.5 .
Since the ship has a leaking heading, the true AOB would be 180-52.5=127.5°.
This is totally false.

To the eye we can see that the AOB does not exceed 105/110°.

Only erroneous data can give such results.
The mast height and/or length of the vessel must be wrong.

Am I getting the wrong idea, or am I correct?

nazaka · 03-27-20, 09:27 AM

Nobody?

vdr1981 · 03-27-20, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazaka

Nobody?

There is indeed a possibility that not all the values from the recognition manual are 100% correct. Unfortunately there is no 100% valid way in the game to measure ships length, height and other values...

nazaka · 03-27-20, 12:12 PM

May be a conversion error between units of measurement (feet/metres)...

Could someone with the feet version be able to give us the values he has?

hauangua · 03-27-20, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazaka

Hi,

I had a problem in play.
During an attack, I took my measurements for the RAOBF disc, and I got this:

If I look at the result correctly, in X6, with a height of 7.5 (1200m) and a length of 23, I get an AOB of 52.5 .
Since the ship has a leaking heading, the true AOB would be 180-52.5=127.5°.
This is totally false.

To the eye we can see that the AOB does not exceed 105/110°.

Only erroneous data can give such results.
The mast height and/or length of the vessel must be wrong.

I calculated the 102 ° AOB with the "Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle" ...

nazaka · 03-27-20, 01:49 PM

I've decided to take a different approach to checking this ship's values.
I created a mission with the ship AOB 90° at 2000m.

I was able to determine the values at once:
Height: 5.5 ticks for 2000m corresponds to a height of 27.6m

length: 17.4 ticks for an AOB from 90° to 2000m gives us a length of 86.9m

So there are a lot of wrong values in this identification book. I hope there aren't too many, it would be really stupid to miss out on it.

Thank you for your help.

nazaka · 03-27-20, 01:52 PM

For info, with the values of 7.5 ticks of height and 23 ticks of length, I find an AOB of 104-105°.

hauangua · 03-27-20, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazaka

For info, with the values of 7.5 ticks of height and 23 ticks of length, I find an AOB of 104-105°.

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nazaka · 03-27-20, 02:52 PM

Why did you delete my message?

You miscalculated.
Did you take the values from my screenshot?

On the ship's identification book, we have a height of 22.6m and a length of 86.9m

That gives us this theoretical aspect ratio: 86.9/22.6=3,485

Now, the observed aspect ratio in ticks: 23/7.5=3.067

ratio observed aspect / theoretical aspect ratio X 100= 3.067/3.485 X 100 = 88% X 100 = 88

If we go back to the Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle:

We're getting an AOB of 63°
And since the ship is fleeing: 180-63=117°

nazaka · 03-27-20, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hauangua

I calculated the 102 ° AOB with the "Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle" ...

What have you use to calculate this?

I can't find anything on the forum about "Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle."

hauangua · 03-27-20, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazaka

What have you use to calculate this?

I can't find anything on the forum about "Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle."

03-25-20, 12:38 AM	#1
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	False ship data? Hi, I had a problem in play. During an attack, I took my measurements for the RAOBF disc, and I got this: If I look at the result correctly, in X6, with a height of 7.5 (1200m) and a length of 23, I get an AOB of 52.5 . Since the ship has a leaking heading, the true AOB would be 180-52.5=127.5°. This is totally false. To the eye we can see that the AOB does not exceed 105/110°. Only erroneous data can give such results. The mast height and/or length of the vessel must be wrong. Am I getting the wrong idea, or am I correct?

03-27-20, 02:52 PM	#9
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Why did you delete my message? You miscalculated. Did you take the values from my screenshot? On the ship's identification book, we have a height of 22.6m and a length of 86.9m That gives us this theoretical aspect ratio: 86.9/22.6=3,485 Now, the observed aspect ratio in ticks: 23/7.5=3.067 ratio observed aspect / theoretical aspect ratio X 100= 3.067/3.485 X 100 = 88% X 100 = 88 If we go back to the Gegnerlage Berechnungstabelle: We're getting an AOB of 63° And since the ship is fleeing: 180-63=117° Last edited by nazaka; 03-27-20 at 03:14 PM.

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03-27-20, 09:27 AM	#2
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Nobody?

03-27-20, 12:12 PM	#4
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	May be a conversion error between units of measurement (feet/metres)... Could someone with the feet version be able to give us the values he has?

03-27-20, 01:49 PM	#6
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I've decided to take a different approach to checking this ship's values. I created a mission with the ship AOB 90° at 2000m. I was able to determine the values at once: Height: 5.5 ticks for 2000m corresponds to a height of 27.6m length: 17.4 ticks for an AOB from 90° to 2000m gives us a length of 86.9m So there are a lot of wrong values in this identification book. I hope there aren't too many, it would be really stupid to miss out on it. Thank you for your help.

03-27-20, 01:52 PM	#7
nazaka A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 75 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	For info, with the values of 7.5 ticks of height and 23 ticks of length, I find an AOB of 104-105°.