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Old enough to know better
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Indeed. It's not 3 Roentgen it is 15000.
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I have just watched the last episode im actually surprised this was a very good series, im impressed about the level of detail and the graphic nature of the costumes and make up.
Im glad they did put footage and description of Legasov at the end, and im glad they noted the Yedemchuk scientist was basically someone who was created in representation of all the scientist that took part. Stellan Skasgard played a very good role too of course we know him more for Konavalovs captain Tupolev in HFRO. Over all i am not disappointing in the series. Do i want to go back and see more ? well all i am going to say is watch this space.
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Most of the filming sites where actually in Lithuania.
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You didn't see pieces of show on the ground, comrade.
*vomits onto desk*
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It wasn’t all that bad I’ve got three arms now since going to Chernobyl
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The TV series were entertaining, but sadly they are almost (ie excluding creative flare and invention) are based on the..... Soviet prosecutor office narrative which essentially scapegoated (and demonised) the operators despite witness testimony and evidence (ie computer logs) to the contrary.
For example Dyatlov did not just see graphite blocks during the night, he correctly identified them and cautioned other people about them. As such while I would suggest watching the series for entertainment value I would caution against taking it as a serious historical source, especially considering the maker's political bias and factual errors they made during production.
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@Subnuts, what show is that from? I assume it's not the TV series Chernobyl
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ikalugin, I agree totally and would like to add that there are lot of scenes that show absolutely nonscense: when Scherbina tells Legasov that he can order to drop him out of helicopter (facepalm), when minister of coal industry talks with miners from Tula in company of riflemen (facepalm), when a wife adresses to her husband - "Vasiliy" and he calls her "Ludmila" - didn't consultants tell the staff that Russians and Ukrainians do not act like that in common life? We've got diminutives and they are easier to pronounce for foreigners than full names ;-) Overdose of the word "Tovarisch" - it was very official in fact and is used only by military personnel or party personnel or by people during official events - meetings, conferences,
I'd recommend to watch documentary Angels of Chernobyl ( Ангелы Чернобыля) - this will give a better picture of what those people looked like - much better than pictured in HBO series. Link is here Unfortunately It's in Russian only - but you can compare real videos - to HBO series.
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Apart from making Dyatlov the "incompetent bad guy", I really hated how little they concentrated on the roof clearing operation.
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Dowly, a very thorough article on roof cleaning : https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles...lskiy-spetsnaz
It's in Russian but you can use machine translation. I do think roof cleaning operation is underrated by the series - it was very forethought and complex operation and all those who went there did it freewillingly and were and are very brave people both soldiers and officers.
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There is also this short documentary about the operation with footage recorded at the time:
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Half-life and half truths..
" [...]The reactor had no "design flaws." The reactors of the 60s and 70s were optimized for performance. Safety was not a central issue (as with the Fukushima reactors, also a product of that time). The Russian designers were well aware of the weaknesses of the design, the operating rules considered this accordingly. But this only works with a good safety culture, and the latter was missing completely. In the Leningrad 1 nuclear power plant 1974, the first year of operation with a "Chernobyl type reactor", several serious problems occurred. Among other things, a partial meltdown occurred with partial destruction of the reactor core. Three employees died. And in 1982 a meltdown also occurred in Block 2 of Chernobyl. In both cases, significant amounts of radioactive substances were released as the reactors had no containment. Lessons were barely learned; on the contrary, everything was kept top secret. [...] "
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